GoneAwol

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  UK: Paul Shields "abused girls after luring them with video games"

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  fyi from north-east england:.

  http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/johovahs-witness-abused-girls-after-12538877.

  jehovah's witness abused girls after luring them with video games, court told.

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  GoneAwol

  Oh dear! This guy was our 'best man' at our wedding in 1990! More later.. feel ill right now.
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  Is it possible to decline preaching in the carts?

  by Skepsis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks,.

  i have a difficult dilemma.

  since i'm not pioneering any more, i'm reducing my hours wasted at that artifact known as cart or trolley.

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  GoneAwol

  Complain of having anxiety attacks. Nobody can disprove it. When on the cart one day, start breathing into a paper bag and say you're all sweaty.

  Hey, that might work with the mini servant thing when the time comes! You wont have to give talks either!

  Hope it goes well whatever you decide.
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  How do JW's determine a person is anointed?

  by thinker11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've always wondered about this.

  when a person believes they made a spiritual connection with god and proclaims themselves as anointed, how do they determine whether this person is anointed or not.

  does a group of elders look at the person's spiritual resume and check off the person's pioneer stats, bible knowledge, attendance, work ethic, personality, etc and then believe in the person if they have a good track record?

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  GoneAwol

  In my first cong, we had a 'tongue of flame on the head' guy who had multiple failed businesses, a failed marriage, in fact all but him had left the club.

  I ended up doing work experience with this loser when I was still at school. He was cleaning aircraft for our local airport. Half way through the week, he sent everyone home as he'd gone bust again. 6 brothers left with no job.

  I thought that you could be deleted as an elder if you went broke?

  He was and is a joke. Nobody believes that he is anointed. 'god' must be really licking the barrel with this one.

  Yet each memorial he has the 'privilege' of giving the talk. That's at least 40 years of listening to an absolute yawn fest.
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  Dose Wt really have that much cash.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i realize that wt has got a wind fall of cash through various means.

  so my question is in the greater scheme of things is it really that much.

  for example let's say with all their real estate and cash on hand they are worth about $20 billion dollars.

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  GoneAwol

  What alarms me is the SPEED with which they have made these changes. Herd might as well have had a machete the way he carved slices out of each department. That doesn't show to me a sustainable business model being slowly rolled out. It shows sheer panic.

  They already have congregational pledging. It wouldn't take much to implement it on a personal level. It will be just one extra form to fill in.

  Yes, some may leave, but the gb will just blame it on the 'love of the greater number cooling off'.
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  Dose Wt really have that much cash.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i realize that wt has got a wind fall of cash through various means.

  so my question is in the greater scheme of things is it really that much.

  for example let's say with all their real estate and cash on hand they are worth about $20 billion dollars.

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  GoneAwol

  I think they will need to start tithing. They'll probably dress it up as an 'adjustment' to the congregation pledging arrangement. After all, its just one more step up.

  What else can they do to raise more money? Nothing I can think of right now...
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  UK Kingdom Halls for sale

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  " and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !

  sell !

  sell !

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  GoneAwol

  Cheers Darkspilver, its difficult to tell what has sold and what hasn't when the estate agents don't update their websites.

  Either way, finding KH's for sale could end up being a good hobby!
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  UK Kingdom Halls for sale

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  " and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !

  sell !

  sell !

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  GoneAwol

  Some more kingdumb halls listed for sale in uk. Wondrous contraction is now taking place....

  https://propertylink.estatesgazette.com/property-details/6152339-kingdom-hall-28-hallfields-lane-peterborough-pe4-7yh

  http://www.barbararees.com/property_detail1.php?id=875

  http://www.richardbaddeley.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/FOR-SALE-KINGDOM-HALL.pdf

  https://www.onthemarket.com/details/3027385/

  http://www.slideserve.co.uk/kingdom-hall-for-sale-in-eckington-england
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  Much of the Old Testament accounts do not seem to be historical, shows internal evidence

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ezekiel 16 gives a brief history of israel.

  surprisingly, it has no resemblance with what we already know about israel—their origin and progress as given in the prophecy genesis 22:15-18 and also in the description that follows.

  ezekiel repeatedly says (16:2, 45) “your ancestry and birth were in the land of the canaanites; your father was an amorite [descended from one of the sons of canaan (genesis 14:7), occupied large parts of southern mesopotamia, and their god was amurru] and your mother a hittite [ancient anatolian people who established an empire centered on hattusa].

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  GoneAwol

  Nice bit of research Anointed1! You would have thought that if all scripture is inspired and beneficial, the small historical details would be the easy part to get right.
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  Theists, why does God allow suffering..

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ..specifically, the suffering of animals.

  you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

  i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

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  GoneAwol

  So when I get to the paradise, my pet panda is going to DIE????
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  Writers (not God) are at fault

  by anointed1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if scriptures are written by people who have no sense of justice, it is natural that god would be misrepresented—something that happened to the biblical god.

  to mention a few:.

  1) david, murderer of the innocent and faithful, wrote portions of the bible.. 2) paul who set in opposition to genuine apostles who were directly trained by jesus himself sarcastically describing them as “superfine apostles” openly declared in some places that it was not spirit, but he was writing.

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  GoneAwol

  So who decides which bits of the bible are relevant? You? The bits that fit your version of how life should be lived?

  News flash! Its called cherry picking! Its dishonest. You should be asking instead: Why would an all powerful god ALLOW his precious book to become tainted by immoral writers in the first place? Did he allow it, or didn't he have control over it. Why is that? Cant or wont? Does he even exist?

  By the way, waxing lyrical using floaty christian effusive language doesn't make you more religious or godly. It makes you come across as a bit mad. Just saying....