it is a challenge coming to terms with your experience as a jehovah's witness.
if you were born and raised as a jw, and your parents were true believers, the impact on your life is profound, lasting, and largely negative.
in some cases quite abusive emotionally, spiritually, financially, educationally and yes, even sexually.. i recently watched "trumbo", and was quite moved by dalton trumbo's speech to the screen writers guild in 1970. here is an excerpt that i think is quite relevant to this topic:.
Agreed Talesin, the gb are expending a LOT of energy lying. eg:
At the ARC, making sure they don't turn up for court cases, lying on jw.borg to its followers, all to cover up child abuse.
And I don't think the religion was started with good intentions either. Miracle wheat anyone? It has always been a money making scam right from the get go.
Victims they are not.They are the perpetrators. Victims should be angry.
was told by someone that a receipt article eluded to the fact that satan can cause natural disasters.
i don't see how i could have missed this.
doesn't anyone remember this?
You don't see theists litigating against insurance companies for `acts of god`.
If they truly believed satan was behind some natural disaster, wouldn't they complain of religious intolerance if their payout was stopped?
Natural disaster. Clue`s in the name...
morning warship - he was the only restraint and i'm not saying that lightly.
i know there are a dozen others here who were in bethel back in the early 2000's who know what i'm talking about.
he actually kept me thinking this was jehovah's org because of his sincerity as if the holy spirit was operating in him.
I was an attendant at Newcastle district assembly one year. Sidlick and his family / hanger on- ers came to my section during lunch and demanded to have a whole row just for them to watch the public talk and drama. It was the best view. Sidlick was doing the talk. I refused to move bags and books. After another attendant sent me to lunch, i came back to see that 2 families had had their belongings moved to lost property. One family had a newborn with them.
That family is now out because of that treatment. When they found out who had done it, the wife went home crying.
I still see the young guy, he works in a well known electrical store in Stockton on Tees.
Make of it what you will. People have dark sides etc. But you could tell that he had a disregard for the small people. He loved the adulation after he gave a talk, you should have seen the fawning over him when he came back ti his seat for the drama.
There was nothing "spiritual" or "humble" about that little performance. It was all about him. A rock star pope.
we both are 21 years old.
we both are 21 years old.
i am almost done with my study and working on to become one of an unbaptized publisher.
Hi Truelove!
Are you trying to become a jw FOR this girl? Or do you truely believe the religion has 'truth'?
If this girl wasnt on the scene, would you still become a jw?
This is the question you must answer truthfully. Take responsibility for your desicions, and dont get carried off by what others want for you.
according to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
Fisherman: "Too many things"
I`m not asking for ALL your experiences that make you a lover of god.
Just one. One little wafer.....then I too will love your god.
according to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
Fisherman: "I am convinced though that he is a loving God. I choose to trust him for better or for worse."
Convinced by what exactly?
according to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/14276665.victims__brainwashed__in___8m_investment_scam/he told investors that his status as a jehovah’s witness meant he was unable to break the law, in an effort to win their trust.. teesside crown court heard how many of the 350 victims were elderly and had been deliberately targeted.some had since died with the stress of the county durham-based fraud having contributed to their ill health, and others had lost homes and life savings.a third man the crown said was involved, anthony kemp, is currently serving a prison sentence in new zealand for a separate but similar fraud, but is expected to be extradited back to the uk to stand trial when he is released.. .
full aricle at link.
Wow, know James and Gillian. Dont know the dad very well. I like this quote" the fraud was like a religion"
James was always a bit flash but never thought he had this in him. Ah well, you never can tell.
not being familiar with either, my question is:.
what is the relationship between evolution and atheism?.
i'd love to hear from anyone and everyone, and also from any perspective.. without limiting the conversation in any way, i would of course also appreciate comments that are simple, clear, direct and correct (as i don't have the capacity to do a phd in evolution or atheism)..
Over the years, religion changes its opinion on teachings yes, but usually its a forced change perhaps from a legal perspective ( think Bulgaria) Its not very often you have a religious leader say "sorry we got that bit wrong, this is version 2 and its much better" and they never say why a teaching has been changed, just mask it as new light.
Science is always subject to other scientists who review whats being presented and re examine it for holes and weaknesses. When a hypotheses is presented it is tested again and again. These ideas are only kept if supported by testable evidence. The unsupportable ideas are discarded. That is the core of science.
I completely undestand about some scientists being dishonest, especialy if they get recognition out of it, but the core methods will always find them out and they are exposed.
I think it comes down to trust. Religion or science. I wouldnt jump off a building without a parachute. Overlapping generations. Take your pick.
the watchtower of december 2015 reports the following reaction of a family with four teenagers in the country of rwanda with the publication of the nwt, and how grateful they were for it.
the wt magazine said: .
things changed when the new world translation in their language became available.
