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  serena williams

  by FreeFallin in

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  not really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .

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  liam

  This seems like pure emotional blackmail to boost their numbers.
  

  Of course it is.
  

  But humans do what they do, even if it makes no sense. That's the way it has always been in religious Organizations as well as non-religious organizations.That's the reason the Watchtower exist and people continue to join even with all the exposure of their Child Sex abuse, deaths resulting from their No Blood Ideology, and their shunning practices. .

  Look at the history of the Catholic Church, They use to execute people if you opposed them. And even with all the proof, over a billion people continue to proudly call themselves Catholic.

  But it's not just the Catholic Church.

  That’s why History keeps repeating itself despite all the evidence. Most people prefer to stay ignorant rather that face the harsh reality of life.

  All we can do is try to help them see. Some will listen, some won’t.

  Catholic Inquisition

  The exact death toll of the Catholic Inquisition is difficult to determine, but estimates range from thousands to hundreds of thousands. The number of deaths depends on the region and the time period.

  Spanish Inquisition

  The Spanish Inquisition resulted in 32,000 executions. The Spanish Inquisition lasted for over 200 years and was a major force in Spain

  Inquisition in Italy

  Italian historian Andrea Del Col estimates that around 1,250 people were sentenced to death out of 51,000–75,000 cases in Italy after 1542

  Inquisition in Portugal

  In the 16th and early 17th centuries, about 5.7% of the people tried in Portugal were sentenced to death

  Many executions were carried out by non-church tribunals, such as witch hunts in Protestant countries
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  serena williams

  by FreeFallin in

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  not really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .

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  Anonoy Mous What evidence do you have that they truly changed their ways. The disfellowshipping arrangement is still in place, the 2 witness rule is still in place, social control is still a thing.

  As I mention in my other post, there was a letter to the elders posted a few months ago on exjw reddit. Now the term is Removed not disfellowshipped. Different guidelines on handling a person involved in conduct not becoming. A lot of the posters were furious because many had been disfellowshipped for years and still were being held back by some elders to not get reinstated. But now the letter had guidelines on reinstating disfellowshipped people immediately. Elders have been reaching out to many disfellowshipped people, and many are coming back to be able to talk to family. I remember the letter because many were pissed off, I believe a PIMO Elder posted the letter for a couple of days and then took it down for obvious reasons.
  

  Can you honestly tell the elders that you are posting here on apostate websites and get away with it?

  As I already said in my other posts, I never got baptized as a JW, but I have lots of family that are JWs. So the elders can't do shit because I post on Apostate websites.
  
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

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  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  liam

  It appears Jesus had a problem explaining his views to others.

  Suddenly not everything Jesus said was true?

  Jesus tells them the girl is NOT DEAD BUT SLEEPING.

  Jesus is the TRUTH....He has no Sin......He cannot LIE.

  So who do we believe? Jesus to tell the truth, or the People who said she had died?

  
  Halcon, it's called "Sass"

  I was trying to make a point since many believe Jesus was sent by God to perform miracles. The resurrection is a big thing to them, but three resurrections is not enough to prove anything. Worse is two resurrections, especially when Jesus admits the girl was not dead which now makes it to two resurrections.

  I'm not trying to confirm Jesus was sent by God. I'm trying to show how it all falls apart when examined carefully.
  
  
  
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’ ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.

  It appears that neither Abraham, Isaac nor Jacob died either.

  It appears Jesus had a problem explaining his views to others. But others used his explanations as a means to get ahead in life. And it worked for many people

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJslCsekjIg
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

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  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  liam

  This was Liam's original issue. If the little girl was only sleeping according to Jesus, did he resurrect her or not? Liam implied that Jesus lied.

  NO, I said Jesus said the Truth, because he is suppose to always tell the truth because he is God's son or God whichever form of Christianity you believe.

  Jesus said; "She is not Dead, but sleeping" So he never resurrected this girl because she was never dead to begin with, and Jesus tried to tell the Crowd that but they refused to listen to Jesus

  The crowd kept saying; "The girl is Dead" ...........Jesus kept saying NO SHE IS SLEEPING.

  Who lied, The crowd or Jesus?...........The Crowd lied.
  
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  JW Vaccine mandate: The contrast between voices of reason and confusion

  by ukpimo in

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  2. beliefs

  i was reading an intriguing post on the exjw reddit, a forum i do not with to sign up for, as i'm not interested in the internal politics of reddit.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1hwlja8/the_governing_bodys_letter_that_shook_bethel_and/.

  another post counteracted this one, driven by the "conspiracy theory" card.

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  liam

  Do you realize that in human nature that one out of every hundred people is either a psychopath , sociopath or dark empath?

  Quit talking about yourself Riley........this is not about you!
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  liam

  Can you please provide independently verified evidence that these things actually happen

  There is no verified evidence that some man 2000 years ago resurrected 3 people.

  No cameras, no videos, to record the 3 resurrections.

  They had no idea how the body works. No knowledge of the body's organs and how they function.

  They attributed most sickness and death to DEmons, Spells, the anger of the Gods or God

  On top of that, 2000 years ago, humanity lacked many modern technologies such as electricity, advanced machinery, computers, and the internet. Most tools and technologies were basic, relying on manual labor and simple mechanical devices.

  Had no idea there was viruses, bacteria. Basically they had no idea about anything. Which is why Stories like the ones in the Gospels were so popular. It was the only entertainment in the whole world.........Story-telling!

  Today we exchange those age old stories with NetFlix, Hulu, Disney, etc. Now we have Thanos who can remove half of the life in the entire Universe with a click of his fingers......and do it without inflicting any pain on the victims, or maneuvering the United Nations to coerce the armies of the world to destroy all Religion except the Watchtower religion of course.

  Yea, we've come a long way.......but we still have a long way to go.
  
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Duran

  Like I said, Jesus only claimed to resurrected Lazarus when he said Plainly; "Lazʹa·rus has died"

  About the little girl, He also said Plainly; “Stop weeping, for she did not die but is sleeping."

  For someone who expects BILLIONS upon billions of people that have lived the past two thousands years, to believe some man that lived 2000 years ago, and has the power to resurrect hundreds of billions of people who have died from the time of Cave Men, with every single one of their memories intact.........IT'S ASKING A LOT base on three measly resurrections that are questionable to begin with.
  

  Why didn't Jesus resurrect the grandma who had been in the grave dead, for the past 30 years. Why didn't he resurrect Lazarus during one of the Jewish festivals when thousands were visiting to witness the event?

  Instead he resurrects less than three people in his entire lifetime, two that weren't even buried yet, and one in a secluded place with only friends around to witness the event.

  Would anyone today believe some man living in the Middle East living in Hamas territory, whose close friends claimed he resurrected three people......... so he is the son of God? Of course not.
  

  But what if some man started resurrecting thousands of people in the graves all around the world and all the media was recording LIVE the event as thousands of people that had been dead for the past hundred years were coming back to life. And the surviving relatives were testifying that IT WAS GRANDMA that had come back, Husbands testifying that it was their wife that had been resurrected. Parents testifying that it was little Johnny that had come back. Testimonies by the thousands. Live on TV. Anyone was welcome to see the next event of resurrections.

  What impact would that have on convincing people that this man performing thousands of resurrections was God or sent by God?

  If this man said; "Follow me and you will have life eternal"

  That would end all doubt and Atheist would cease to exist. Everyone would bend their knee immediately without any questions.
  
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  JW Vaccine mandate: The contrast between voices of reason and confusion

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading an intriguing post on the exjw reddit, a forum i do not with to sign up for, as i'm not interested in the internal politics of reddit.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1hwlja8/the_governing_bodys_letter_that_shook_bethel_and/.

  another post counteracted this one, driven by the "conspiracy theory" card.

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  liam

  NEWS: US STATE BILL to BAN mRNA Technology, Sanction Doctors

  The best part of being a "conspiracy theorist" is not suddenly developing myocaditis, T-cell exhaustion, turbo cancer, Bell's palsy, lupis, POTS, autoimmune conditions, transverse myelitis, amyloidosis, chronic vertigo, Guillain-Barré syndrome, tinnitus, paralysis, sharp decrease in platelet levels, increased risk of mental disorders, thrombosis from strange long blood clots that look like white vien worms, vien spiders or grape jelly.

  On top of that, contracting COVID repeatedly with every single symptom increased. Metastasized Cancer. Lymphoma, Pancreatic, Lung and Skin all increasing and Turbo cancers.

  The year elementary school children needed a pediatrician as well as a cardiologist and healthy athletes started collapsing on the field was the year the media should have been asking questions.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQfYDm-3STQ&t
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  .Halcon; raised a little girl from the dead who's father had become inconsolable...

  That account is found in two Gospels; Luke 8 and Mark 5. Here's my question. In Both accounts all the people at the house are crying and wailing loudly saying the girl is dead.

  Jesus tells them the girl is NOT DEAD BUT SLEEPING.

  Luke 8:52 Stop wailing,” Jesus said. “She is not dead but asleep.”

  Mark 5:39 He went in and said to them, “Why all this commotion and wailing? The child is not dead but asleep.” 40 But they laughed at him.

  Jesus is the TRUTH....He has no Sin......He cannot LIE.

  The People are sinners....they are prone to lie..........they were not doctors.

  So who do we believe? Jesus to tell the truth, or the People who said she had died?

  If we believe Jesus tells the truth, then The Girl was not dead because Jesus said so.

  The people who said she had died were all lying because of ignorance.

  That means Jesus DID NOT RESURRECT THE LITTLE GIRL.

  TWO; a widows son during a funeral.

  Ever heard of the Lazarus Effect?

  Earlier this week, family members of 76-year-old Bella Montoya gathered to mourn her at a funeral parlor in Ecuador. About five hours into the funeral, they heard a strange sound coming from the coffin.

  When family members opened the coffin, they found Montoya gasping for air. Paramedics returned her to the hospital where, only hours earlier, she had been declared “dead” by doctors due to complications with a stroke. Montoya remains in the hospital in intensive care.

  While we only hope that incidents like these remain few and far between, Montoya is hardly the first person to “come to life” in a coffin at a funeral home. According to CNN, earlier this year, an 82-year-old woman was pronounced dead at a nursing home on Long Island, NY, only to be discovered breathing at the funeral parlor a few hours later. Luckily, in these cases, the two were found alive before premature burials.

  That leaves only one more, Lazarus. Why was he only resurrected among friends that knew the family? If God wanted everyone to know He was sent by God or was God, why not resurrected Several people from the graveyard who had been dead for years and their bodies already decomposed. No greater testimony could be given as a witness that Jesus had the power to resurrected those dead for years and restore their body and mind intact.

  If that would have been done publicly for all to see, even the Romans would have bend their knees to Jesus and worship him right then and there. People would be coming from all over the world to see such a man perform such miracles.

  God's Kingdom could start right then and there and all the suffering, death, child sex abuse, could have been avoided for the past 2000 years.

  It would be a paradise baby!