Posts by Tallyman

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Anyone know "Diane Wilson" & WTRape?

by Tallyman in

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friends

i got this email this morning,.

and don't know if it's legit or not.. don't know a "diane wilson".

don't know of the book she lists.

Tallyman

Funkyman:

To the best of my knowledge, she doesn't give the fruits of her labour for free. She charges for them, which she is perfectly entitled to do.

Well c'mon Funkyman.
Where's one of your quick snappy replies??
Hypocrite.
Tell us why you think it's jake to RIP-OFF Famous Songwriter
David Bowie's Lyrics and use this THEFT of HIS INTELLECTUAL Property.

HOW MANY Times have you "Lifted" Bowie's Lyrics?
Hypocrite.
Those Royalty Fees you owe him are adding up...

Did you get HIS permission to use his lyrics - these lyrics?

But if you pray all your sins are hooked upon the sky
Pray and the heathen lie will disappear
Prayers they hide the saddest view
(Believing the strangest things, loving the alien)
-- David Bowie, Loving The Alien

You're the one so hopped up on "He doesn't give the fruits of his labour for free. He charges for them, which He is perfectly entitled to do."

Why do you think you can FREELY EAT the FRUITS of David Bowie's LABOUR?... and then give HIS FRUIT AWAY to Others, so THEY CAN EAT The FRUITS of Bowie's Labour?

Nevermind getting Bowie's permission- how much $$$ have you sent to him for USING his FRUITS?

No, no, don't come back with the cop-out that you "credit" him,
when you STEAL his Lyrics and post them here again and again:
But if you pray all your sins are hooked upon the sky
Pray and the heathen lie will disappear
Prayers they hide the saddest view
(Believing the strangest things, loving the alien)
-- David Bowie, Loving The Alien

That don't cut it.

You think Radio Stations can play his songs, and just as long as they attribute the song to "David Bowie", that negates their LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY for having to pay a Royalty Fee to David Bowie's Record Company?

Hypocrite.

FunkyDerek, Hypocrite.

Hey Funkyman, have you ever noticed how when people are exposed
as Hypocrites, they tend to go mute?

Huuuuuuuuh?

.

19

Anyone know "Diane Wilson" & WTRape?

by Tallyman in

jw
friends

i got this email this morning,.

and don't know if it's legit or not.. don't know a "diane wilson".

don't know of the book she lists.

Tallyman

Funkyman:

To the best of my knowledge, she doesn't give the fruits of her labour for free. She charges for them, which she is perfectly entitled to do.

Still waiting for that link to "Sister Diane Wilson's" personal
website where all the FREE TIDBITS of information are,
to help warn others away from the Watchtowerkult she says she exited,
since you gave the link to where you can $Buy$The$Book$

Hey Funkyman, do you think David Bowie gives the "give the fruits of his labour away for free. He charges for them, which He is perfectly entitled to do."

How many times now, have you RIPPED HIM OFF - HIS SONG LYRICS in your sig line? Did you get David Bowie's PERMISSION before you COPPED HIS WORK, HIS FRUIT OF HIS LABOURS??
Do you sent him a ROYALTY CHECK every time you USE His INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY??
How many TIMES have you RIPPED Bowie OFF, FunkyHypocriteman??

Someone might've learned something from those lyrics you "lifted"...
or got some enjoyment out of them, or it elevated their mood, or something, but the point is, DID THAT PERSON, OR YOU - P A Y For The UnAuthorized USE of David Bowie's LYRICS??

HYPOCRITE!

Hey, next time you sing "Happy Birthday" to someone celebrating at a birthday party, be sure to send in a royalty payment to the AUTHOR of that COPYRIGHTED SONG. You are NOT allowed to FREELY SING IT, without permission, you know!

HYPOCRITE!

She is also entitled to ask you to stop plagiarising her work.

You must not have a freekin' clue as to the meaning of the word,
'plagiarize'
Main Entry: pla·gia·rize
Function: verb
Etymology: plagiary
Date: 1716
: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own
: use (another's production) without crediting the source
: to commit literary theft
: present as new and original an idea or product derived
from an existing source

So, how the hell do ANY of those meanings apply to me,
and the webpage I had set up ... ?

She, "Diane Wilson", in her threatening email to me wasn't even able
to SPELL the word, much less know the meaning of it...
How in the world did she find a publisher???

She wrote it, she should get the credit for it, which is all she's asking for, although she's entitled to more.

Oh, this is rich! Forget the first part of that sentence... Pulleeze tell me "what MORE is she "Diane Wilson" entitled?

I tell ya, some of these so-called EX-jehovah Witnesses are worse than the Dubbie Fanatix themselves. This chick is ALL about Making TOP DOLLAR. Whatever happened to that "serving your fellowman" and the "altruism" and the "humanitarianism" and the "self-sacrifice" that was supposed to be the main driving force behind being a jehovah Witness idea of a Christian - those things that are solid principles, but which the jWs managed to botch anyway?

Uh, oh, Funkyman, here comes your THEFT of a Famous Songwriter's lyrics again:

But if you pray all your sins are hooked upon the sky
Pray and the heathen lie will disappear
Prayers they hide the saddest view
(Believing the strangest things, loving the alien)
-- David Bowie, Loving The Alien

Ka-Ching!! Pay Up! Funkyman!

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19

Anyone know "Diane Wilson" & WTRape?

by Tallyman in

jw
friends

i got this email this morning,.

and don't know if it's legit or not.. don't know a "diane wilson".

don't know of the book she lists.

Tallyman

funkyderek:

And I even suspend the Christian principle of "You received free, give free."
Hell, I'm still living by the Old Hippie Ethic about giving freely
in regards to putting out information that would serve others...

Good for you. Some people thing intellectual property rights are important.

Funkyman,

I see that Sister Wilson has a good li'l shill for her, here.

Hey, since you provided a $$Commercial$$ link...
how about supplying us with "Diane Wilson's" personal Webpage,
where she freely gives out some of her sage observations
on the Watchtower, to help alert people about this most dangerous Kult. You know, a Public Service Type Website, which many of the
people on the Internet think "really important" -
the FREE Interchange of Ideas & Information.

If you posted THAT link, Funkyman, I musta missed it.

She doesn't have to put up her whole friggin' book online,
just some hefty excerpts from it - hey you know, to whet the appetite,
so the readers can then rush out to click on YOUR link to go BUY
the Whole friggin' book.

The law supports them.

Oh, we're getting LEGAL here, are we?
"Diane Wilson" got LEGAL on me, in her email-
(hey, since you brought up things that some people think are important... how's about "Common Courtesy"??
Because I seriously don't like veiled threats of lawsuits
first thing in the morning when I open my email,
before I even gots a few sips of coffee...

The law supports them.

ShhhhhhiT! "The Law supports" the Activities of the Watchtower Kult
if you want to add on to things that "The Law Supports"...

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19

Anyone know "Diane Wilson" & WTRape?

by Tallyman in

jw
friends

i got this email this morning,.

and don't know if it's legit or not.. don't know a "diane wilson".

don't know of the book she lists.

Tallyman

Tom,
I'd suggest contacting her for more detailed information, including a copy of the original article. It's possible that she is writing a book and is plagiarizing you and PB - so you need proof.
LPH

Lionel,
I wrote Randy Watters this morning to try and get to the bottom
of this, but so far haven't heard back.
Blow me Down!
I might have made a mistake and misunderstood something that was
sent anonymously to me 3 years ago, and made a webpage out of the
information... and haven't heard a peep of an objection to haven
"lifted" or STOLEN someone's "intellectual property", and threatened
with legal CONSEQUENCES if I didn't do so and so...
until this morning,
where if this is someone else's work (NOT the WT's Excerpts, which are the Bulk of the Webpage, but the "commentary" that went with
the quotes from WT literature), then that someone maybe figgered
it would be a good time to CA$H-In to try to Sell A Book...
and looks like she already has a shill in this thread.

I repeat Steve Martin's: "Well, Exxxxxccuuuuuusssssse Me!"

LOve, Tallyman

19

Anyone know "Diane Wilson" & WTRape?

by Tallyman in

jw
friends

i got this email this morning,.

and don't know if it's legit or not.. don't know a "diane wilson".

don't know of the book she lists.

Tallyman

Tom,
I'd suggest contacting her for more detailed information, including a copy of the original article. It's possible that she is writing a book and is plagiarizing you and PB - so you need proof.
LPH

Lionel,
I wrote Randy Watters this morning to try and get to the bottom
of this, but so far haven't heard back.
Blow me Down!
I might have made a mistake and misunderstood something that was
sent anonymously to me 3 years ago, and made a webpage out of the
information... and haven't heard a peep of an objection to haven
"lifted" or STOLEN someone's "intellectual property", and threatened
with legal CONSEQUENCES if I didn't do so and so...
until this morning,
where if this is someone else's work (NOT the WT's Excerpts, which are the Bulk of the Webpage, but the "commentary" that went with
the quotes from WT literature), then that someone maybe figgered
it would be a good time to CA$H-In to try to Sell A Book...
and looks like she already has a shill in this thread.

I repeat Steve Martin:

LOve, Tallyman

19

Anyone know "Diane Wilson" & WTRape?

by Tallyman in

jw
friends

i got this email this morning,.

and don't know if it's legit or not.. don't know a "diane wilson".

don't know of the book she lists.

Tallyman

Tom, her handle is 'seemybook'. I just saw her thread on Kent's, fyi. Go have a gander.
sKally

sKally,
can you help a tired old man out and post me a link?

Tom

19

Anyone know "Diane Wilson" & WTRape?

by Tallyman in

jw
friends

i got this email this morning,.

and don't know if it's legit or not.. don't know a "diane wilson".

don't know of the book she lists.

Tallyman

I got this email this morning,
and don't know if it's legit or not.
Don't know a "Diane Wilson". Don't know of the book she lists
as having written.

Do know that I don't take kindly to a THREAT of a Lawsuit
for STEALING another person's "property"... out of the blue,
when all along, since 1999, I received from an anonymous source,
named "Prominent Bethelite", the Watchtower excerpts about their
changing/reversing positions on Rape ... and the commentary which
went with it, which I also assumed was the work of PB, as it is
definitely in his/her style of writing... and I had the WTRape webpage
up on the Internet for 3 years now, without a problem.

Free. Free. Free. Free Information, which I made a webpage of,
and put up to help people, to expose the Watchtower, to show their
lower than dim view of women. I've never charged anything for what
I've put up on the Internet, never asked to be credited, ...

Hell, when people ask if they could use something from a Webpage(s)
I put up, I've always said sure, and that THEY CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR IT FOR ALL I CARE... just as long as the 'word gets out' and this
information is spread as widely as possible to help others,
on what is the Most Excellent Communications Tool in Existence-
The International Network.

Others, I've found out, put a Super Huge Premium on Taking Credit,
Receiving Credit and Receiving $$$ for their "work" to expose the Kult.

To Quote a Very Wise Sage, Steve Martin: "Well, Exxxcuuuussseee Me!"

And I even suspend the Christian principle of "You received free, give free."

Hell, I'm still living by the Old Hippie Ethic about giving freely
in regards to putting out information that would serve others...

So, here's the mail.
Since "Diane Wilson" is a "public figure" and "famous author",
I figure "she" wouldn't mind me listing her UNSOLICITED, by me,
email address...

Anyone got any information on ANY of this?

Thanks,

TT
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Hello,

My name is Diane Wilson, and I am the true author of all of the information
on this website about the Watchtower's view of rape. The contents of your
website has been lifted verbatim from an article I wrote for Free Mind's
Journal July/Aug 1994 edition. You have plagarized my work because you have
not given credit to me as the author. All of this material is also included
in my new book, Awakening of a Jehovah's Witness: Escape From the Watchtower
Society, which is a copyrighted work.

I will give you permission to keep this material on this website ONLY IF you
credit me for this material.To avoid legal consequences, you must say on this
website that Diane Wilson is the originator of this work, and list the title
of my book, Awakening of a Jehovah's Witness: Escape From the Watchtower
Society.

Sincerely,
Diane Wilson

2

Watchtower Rape and changing positions

by Tallyman in

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since the subject is so topical after tonite's "dateline".

and how the young woman did a wonderful job of explaining.

what had happened to her and how her "wonderful spiritual family".

Tallyman

Since the subject is so topical after tonite's "Dateline"
and how the young woman did a wonderful job of explaining
what had happened to her and how her "Wonderful Spiritual Family"
came to her assistance in time of need... (yeah, right!)
a link
to a webpage showing the "changes in position" over the years
by the Watchtower as to just how a woman should react
if she should be raped...

* http://www.intrex.net/talley/WTRape.html

Talk about 'tacking in the wind'!

LOve, Tallyman

6

John Larson, a WT "Art" Displayer

by Tallyman in

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well, blow me down, the "dateline" journalist, john larson,.

at the very beginning of the show, expressed the bottomline:.

"that most everyone watching this show tonight,.

Tallyman

Grunt,

another High(low)light to me about this Dateline piece,
was how PERFECTLY they demonstrated the Twisted Reasoning of the jWs
and how they Twist the Bible to realize their Twisted Dream-
the part
where incredulous Larson asks Bowen about the "application" of the
scripture in 1st Timothy where 'Two Witnesses have to be present'
before a charge can be leveled (and stick) to a Watchtower Elder
who molests a child...
and
people watching will think - "THAT is an example of how jehovah's Witnesses read and apply the Bible and then call themselves the
only true Christians... MY ASS!"

LOve, Tallyman

6

John Larson, a WT "Art" Displayer

by Tallyman in

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well, blow me down, the "dateline" journalist, john larson,.

at the very beginning of the show, expressed the bottomline:.

"that most everyone watching this show tonight,.

Tallyman

Dutchie:

Yeah, Tallyman, when I saw those pictures I thought "those are the same pictures that Tallyman shows." You're flattered I bet!

Dutchie, I think I know what you're saying,
but "flattered" in really not the way I felt when I saw those pics.

I was thinking more of the poor people being FLATTENED in those pics,
and how John Larson had the guts to say so, and that now more people
know just HOW the WATCHTOWERKULT REALLY VIEWS THEM...

Years of KultKrimeFighting, and tonite, just a little payoff and satisfaction, that at least a part of the WT's Dark Underbelly got more than exposed.

LOve, Tallyman