I have a question about the holidays.
This first one is for any in Alaska:
When July 4, rolls around how do you all celebrate it? Here I know they fire off the fire works after dark. Oh such a pretty display.
This is question is for any south of the equator:
Your christmas would be in the middle of your summer, correct? So there is not much chance of snow, well I don't have much snow here either. I guess what I am asking what do you do for your winter holidays and your summer holidays.
Tammie
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I have a question reguarding the holidays?
by Tammie ini have a question about the holidays.. this first one is for any in alaska:.
when july 4, rolls around how do you all celebrate it?
here i know they fire off the fire works after dark.
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Stress related
by Tammie inbefore my husband and i dissocated ourselves, things was very stressful for the two of us.
and i'm sure it went to the kids.
but since then i and my husband have both noticed considerable good changes going on in our lives.
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Before my husband and I dissocated ourselves, things was very stressful for the two of us. And I'm sure it went to the kids. But since then I and my husband have both noticed considerable good changes going on in our lives. Now I don't think it was so much the religion, but our JW relatives who was the cause of the problem. Who know may be it was a combination of both. My mom was always trying to undermind our marrage, I was always bombarded with negative things said about my husband, meeting attendance and so on. When I was a JW I had her, and several other JW relatives tell me and my husband that we would die at Armageddon, and we was going to the meetings and all the stuff assocated with JW's. I had a JW brother in law constantly lied and slandered about us to other relatives. I had JW relatives tell me my children was going to be killed at Armageddon. Now I was a JW, when all this was going on. I would some time even have them show up at my door at 11pm or midnight. All because of this I was gaining weight, and both my husband and I was having stress related problems. I even stopped having my monthly cycle for nearly 6 years. Dr's could not figgure out what was wrong with me. And mom tried her best to convence me that I was dying of cancer or some other life threating problem. My husband was loosing his hair, and was having bleeding problems. The dr said his problem was due to stress. Even our youngest son, well he was having problems also. And it scared the he## out of me.
Now it has been (Aug. 2001) 4 months since our relatives have dissowned us, because we DA ourselves from the JW's. And this is what is going on. My husband's hair stopped falling out, and his bleeding problem has totaly stopped, and the same goes for my son. With me I have been loosing weight and I'm not even on a diet. And since then I've had my 2nd monthly cycle. The first one was back in Oct.
Yea, I miss having a family, but not at the sake of my health. I'm am so glad that they are out of my life now. I do have other relatives who are filling in the empty spaces, so that helps some. And I still have my children and my husband. And they are more important than any lieing, slandering, back stabbers of people. I told my husband, if I ever went back to being a JW (FAT CHANCE, NEVER WILL HAPPEN). I would never allow them back in my lives ever again. And if they ever left that orgization there would be some of them I would never allow to mess with me ever again. The trust issue has been broken by certain family relatives.
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Your best (one sentence) description of the WT
by moman inhere iz mine:.
#1) "a cancer of the soul".
#2) "a fools paradise".
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1. Wolves in sheeps clothing. (Not mine, but I like it.)
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Way Back When You Were A Witness.......
by LB inback in the dark ages did you used to come into message boards like this one, or h20 and try to defend the watchtower society?
i did and things didn't work out so well.
actually they worked out fine, i switched teams.
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Tammie
When I first came on to sites such as these it was for several reasons. The first thing was that the org. was always saying DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THE INTERNET, or some thing close to that. I was wondering what they was trying to hide. he he Now I know. I never tried to defend what the JW's said at the KH, that was hard enough for me to do out in FS. Which I was not doing a whole lot of that any way. But when I really started to dig into sites such as this one, was when the JW's was saying things that was going against my grain. Sheesh I was raised as a JW, and now they was changing things left and right on me. I'm sorry, but a religion should have a solid foundation. And not something that gets changed every so often. And to me, when they dropped the 1914 teaching, I felt like they had done away with any foundation they had. I'm glad that it did, because it just let me know how sneaky and sly they have been all these years. Never will I ever fall for their smooth words.
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I just wonder what they will think?
by Tammie ini was thinking of my jw relatives.
before my husband and i was dissocated, my brother in law was begining to have doubts about the jw religion.
we did not know this at the time.
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I was thinking of my JW relatives. Before my husband and I was dissocated, my brother in law was begining to have doubts about the JW religion. We did not know this at the time. After we walked away, an aunt told us. But let me go on. When we told him of our decision to leave he got all rightious, and very judgemental. He said that he was going to tell the elders on us, so we would get df'd. And he was true to his word, before we even told the elders our decision they had already been contacted by him.
Now to the part of where I was wondering. Lets say in another 20 or 30 years when we are getting older, assuming we don't die of some cause. That would put my brother in law around 60 years old, and a grand parent. And the same goes for all my other JW relatives. I just wonder what they will be thinking when the "end" is not here yet. And they are growing old, and all those who was not suppose to die, has already died. And those who are not suppose to get old, has grown old. I just wonder if they would come to their right mind, or if they will still be stubbernly hanging on to their religion. I just wonder what the will be thinking, when it dawns on them they have been living a lie?.
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I want a family to celebrate Christmas with
by puppylove ini want a "normal" family.
i want to go to my mom's home on christmas.
i want to fight with my husband about whose house we are going to this year - his mom's or mine.
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Tammie
((((((((((puppylove)))))))))
I feel the same way you do. My husband has relatives who are filling in the gap, but it is not quite the same. This is my first year celabrating the holidays. I was DA back in Aug. So my family has turned their backs on me. But I'm actually finding that is better for my own family. But I do see those tv comericals, and all the family love that they show. I'm not trying to rush my children, but one day when they grow up, and have their own families. Having them to come to my home. Oh what joy. But that is a long ways off. They are only 4 and 6. -
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hubby's phone call to grand ma
by Tammie ina couple of weeks ago, we get a phone call from my husband's aunt.
she tells him that his jw grandma (g-ma) wanted him to call her, and she promised him that she would not shun him.
this is how the phone call went.. grandma (g-ma)- "hello, who is this?
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Just an update. My husband called his aunt to tell her what happen when he called his grandma. The aunt was very angry, at her mom (his g-ma). To make a long story short. His aunt has been going to the memoral (at the KH) for many years with her mom. Now because of how g-ma treated my husband, she does not want any thing to do with the JW, and won't ever go to another memoral ever again.
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hubby's phone call to grand ma
by Tammie ina couple of weeks ago, we get a phone call from my husband's aunt.
she tells him that his jw grandma (g-ma) wanted him to call her, and she promised him that she would not shun him.
this is how the phone call went.. grandma (g-ma)- "hello, who is this?
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A couple of weeks ago, we get a phone call from my husband's aunt. She tells him that his JW grandma (g-ma) wanted him to call her, and she promised him that she would not shun him. We've both dissocated ourselved back in August. But yesterday was the first time he got a chance to call her. This is how the phone call went.
grandma (g-ma)- "Hello, who is this?"
D. (my husband)- "Hi, grandma this is D., aunt B. told me that you wanted me to call you."
g-ma- "You know better than try to talk to me. You left Jehovah." CLICK! (She hung up the phone.)This is really bothering him. Normally he lets things go. But this is really hurting him. And the thing is that when he is being affected like this, it really hurts me also. Right now I feel like going over and .... well I better not say. But I am peaved. He works the grave yard shift, and I got a phone call from him around 1:30 am. He sounded so sad. Later today he is going to call his aunt up, and tell her what his g-ma said to him. What really bugs me is that some of his JW relatives are telling such lies, just to make themselves look good. I am glad to be away from such a lieing, slandering bunch, JW relatives to be exact, that I wished I walked away ALOT sooner. My mom told me that I am dead to her, that is until I come back to their orgization. HA!! This is just pushed me and my husband even further away from the WTBTS. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER again will I put myself or my children threw that hell ever again. I'm sorry to rag on, but I feel like screaming right now. But with my children asleep, I don't think that would be such a good idea.[>:(][>:(][>:(][>:(]
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it's great to be free
by javagal inwell i promised myself i wasn't going to let my jw parents in on what the borganization is holding back from them but i did it today anyways... i couldn't stand one more minute of their "wonderful" religion and how terrific it all is so i said that i was watching the news (this forum is quite informative - could be called news :) ) and then told her the entire story about the un and the jw's involvement with it.... but of course she can't believe that and if it is true there must be a reason for it.
i said i couldn't think of any reason to be part of the "disgusting thing"....that was completely true i didn't tell her that the disgusting thing was the wtbts not the un... so anyways long and short of it is that she is going to have to wait and see if it is tru.
she is certain the watchtower will explain why very soon and if not it doesn't matter she knows that she is in the right organization.
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Tammie
I have several relatives who are also JW's. I got to have my say with my mom once. But every thing I said to her was the same as bouncing a rubber ball of a brick wall. They remind me of as the bible says "a lamb being led to slaughter." I honestly think that the the WTBTS told them to jump off of a building they would do it, or even worse.
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Tammie
I'm right and your wrong. Now shut up and stop your crying, or we will just have every one shun you.