hi.
just wondering if anyone has current figures on the number of disfellowshipings, disassociations, and walk-aways that are occuring from jw's.
i've heard a lot of older figures, but i was wondering if there was a source for more recent data.. thanks for any help here.... taoinit
Hi
Just wondering if anyone has current figures on the number of Disfellowshipings, Disassociations, and Walk-aways that are occuring from JW's. I've heard a lot of older figures, but I was wondering if there was a source for more recent data.
thanks for any help here...
taoInit
<fluff> .
at the book studies?
they were the highlight of the month.. thing is, all the sisters would try to outdo each other making nice food, which amused me no end, and also kept my stomach filled up, but drove me nuts, because my mother would spend the entire afternoon making a giant racket in the kitchen and screaming @ my sister whilst doing it, just to bake a cool cake for the book study.. also, remember those last ~15 minutes before the end of cake night book studies?
I remember them. But like Beck from Melbourne they were called "cup o' tea" or "tea and bicky" (that means biscuit BTW) nights. Must be a Melbourne thing.
Anyway, isn't it interesting how the brothers (at least those in power; COs and DOs) are so against this type of thing. Except of course where their own lunches are concerned.
Perhaps it has something to do with not being "Rice Christians". Wouldn't want to be hypocritical now would we. Funny how we're limited to being hypocritical on stuff like UN affiliations, and not the fun stuff like cake nights...hehe.
taoInit
since leaving the organism i have had a problem with emotional situations.
i have bee labeled "bp", for those that don't know what bp is.....it is bi-polar.
what i am finding is that anyone that shows a behavior that is not in the norm....they are labeled bp.. we are given lithium and a meriad of other me's to correct this "condition".
Hi D&C
I was just wondering if you'd had a second (or third) opinion on your diagnosis. Maybe one from a different "quarter" than psychiatry. I know a lot of people look down on a more natural solution to human ailments, but sometimes it's worth it.
I know very little about BP, so I'm not recommending any treatments myself, just saying that you may look into other alternatives.
As to the positivity of this (and other forums): I think the internet allows people to voice a lot of their frustrations, and so it is not always the best place to go for healing.
Positive assurance that what you're doing is right? Well, all I can say is that standing on your on two feet can never be wrong! Don't give up on yourself, or the decisions you've made to think for yourself.
Love and affirmation
taoInit
inspired while posting on another thread, i was wondering, have you ever competed with other jws to get recognition or favour??
i can remember as a kid, being in a book study group with other kids, and when it came time to give an answer that kids could cope with...all kiddie sized hands would fly up and we'd all look at each other in the hope that it was our hand that got chosen.
i remember some kids would burst into tears if they didn't get chosen...and others would scowl or quickly go about looking for the next answer.
I would have been competitive, but in our cong. there was no one to compete with.
At most times there were so few young people that even if you'd wanted to compete you couldn't. And at other times, when a few youngies drifted through, they couldn't have cared less about competing in "spiritual things".
So I was a "lone acheiver".
Poor me
taoInit
question for those who were raised as jws.....after you left, especially if as an adult, did you ever feel like you were "socially retarded"?
i was married twice to jws, yet when i was single again as an xjw, i really felt like i didn't know how to get to know someone of the opposite sex, how to date, what to do or not do, what to expect or not expect.
my ex-husband talked to me the other day and he stated the same thing.
Soshul? What's Soshul?
Is that where you do things with people and stuff?
I didn't know we could do that? [8>]
taoInit
the following is taken from questions from readers p.31 of the my 1, 2002 watchtower.
it is the wt response to the question: "when john saw the "great crowd" rendering sacred service in jehovah's temple, in which part of the temple were they doing this?".
quote.
Hi all
The 1935 date is a weird one. When I was researching it a while back, to see what justification was used to come up with it, I found that the WT publications make "circular references" to prove it. I don't know the 2 articles/books, but I'm sure someone will remember and post them. They each refer to the other, as to how the date was arrived at, and neither of them give any real info on it.
I think the date was based on the fact that there were now more than 144,000 witnesses associated with the org. at around that time, so the heavenly call (limited to just 144K) was OBVIOUSLY, proven by the facts of the times, finished.
taoInitiate
yep.. shortly is to be released is a series of an all occassion greeting card set for the jw's:.
for the d'fd in your family:.
"i wanted to let you know,.
Or for marriage:
I hear you just got married,
It's until death you part.
For J-dubs this means forever,
Wonder why you'd even start?
But let me tell you a secret,
of how to cut the ties.
Just say your partner fornicated,
Even if it's a tissue of lies.
Get on the elders' good sides,
And suck up to 'em quick
If you're a guy you can dump your wife,
And grab some other chick.
taoInit
"The limit of the unlimited is called 'fullness.'
The limitlessness of the limited is called 'emptiness'." - Chuang Tzu
when you were a jw could you read any book that was in the kh libary any time you wanted?.
are the book like.
"millions now living will never die".
Just before I left our congregation library servant was instructed, by a society letter it seems, to take out all "non-JW" literature from the library. This included the reprints of the "Studies in the Scriptures" by a non-JW source, and a few other older publications.
About the same time a lot of other "older publications" were "lost". I was wondering if this "loss" of the older publications, such as older WT's and a lot of the Rutherford era books, was as a result of the same WT directive. I always had this sneaking suspicion that it was.
taoInit
"The limit of the unlimited is called 'fullness.'
The limitlessness of the limited is called 'emptiness'." - Chuang Tzu
i think most witnesses (and ex-wits) will have heard of the "spring analogy" often used by witnesses in "youth talks".. it states that a young person who is "let on the loose" too quickly by his/her parents can be like a spring which is held tightly between the fingers and then suddenly released.
both can fly off in any random direction.. i was just thinking this could probably be applied to those leaving any sort of constraining, or limiting, situation.
(think cults, etc.).
Mommy
Haven't been reading here for that long, so I missed your previous post. I totally agree that you get more comfortable doing things that you used to think were "out of control" the longer you have been "gone".
And others, definately the spring can be weakened by too much pressure. It's been proved over and over again.
taoInit
"The limit of the unlimited is called 'fullness.'
The limitlessness of the limited is called 'emptiness'." - Chuang Tzu
the bible according to lego!.
http://www.thereverend.com/brick_testament/index.html.
"as every one knows, there are mistakes in the bible" - the watchtower, april 15, 1928, p. 126 .
This is quite cool...but some people certainly have waaaay to much time on their hands.
taoInit
"To start from nowhere and follow no road is the first step toward attaining Tao." - Chuang Tzu
