Posts by smiddy3

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JW view of apostates is of human origin
by venus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
god doesn’t take action against a person who has long history of faithfulness when he fails for the first time.

for example, satan is freely permitted to move in heaven and on earth even after many many sins he keeps on practicing.

israel as a nation was not rejected at the first instance of their disobedience.
smiddy3

God doesn’t take action against a person who has long history of faithfulness when he fails for the first time. For example, Satan is freely permitted to move in heaven and on earth even after many many sins he keeps on practicing. Israel as a nation was not rejected at the first instance of their disobedience.
So for the next 6 thousand years Satan had free range of shifting between heaven and earth with no other penalties on him or his followers .No suffering ,no death ,no indignity`s ,no anything.
except for some future punishment thousands of years in the future no doubt.
Big deal
How does that compare with Adam & Eve ? They were immediately sentenced to a life of misery outside of Gods favour and so were their offspring to what we see today 6,000 years later of misery , disease ,indignity`s ,suffering and ,death .
No normal parent today would put their child through any suffering of any sort for a minute however Jehovah God has put his children through the worst of sufferings for thousands of years.
Wasn`t Satan the original apostate ? If anything he should have recieved the more heavier sentence.
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What can the leadership at Watchtower do to turn things around?
by UnshackleTheChains in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
let's play devils advocate here.. put yourself in the governing body's shoes.

they are well aware of all the issues they are facing.

they know their numbers (they 'do the math' as they say in the us).
smiddy3

I hope they never ever turn things around .I don`t want them to reform or change their ways ,I want them to go into oblivion if that`s at all possible.(though I doubt it will happen in the near foreseeable future)
The damage they have done to millions of people with their policy`s since their inception in the late 1800`s ,and (that is no exaggeration saying millions) ,reform or change in policy`s now would not do justice for all the suffering and wrongs that have been endured by members over all these years and is still being endured by members and there family`s still under the control of this sect.
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So, is God a rapist!?
by stuckinarut2 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
ok, i apologise in advance if this seems irreverent to those who believe in god.. but, the bible says that god (jehovah) impregnated mary.

without her consent.

so that would seem to be rape...right?.
smiddy3

I think Ever Apostate sums it up nicely,what more needs to be said ?
Then again I suppose we could all be tormented eternally in a Hell-fire ,or exterminated once and for all at Armageddon .
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October 31, 2017 TO SELECTED BOEs IN THE US BRANCH TERRITORY Re: Discontinuation of the Funds-on-Deposit Arrangement
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
october 31, 2017 to selected bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: discontinuation of the funds-on-deposit arrangement.
smiddy3

We can only hope so BbW
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October 31, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: New Visitor Exhibit at Bethel (UK)
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
october 31, 2017 to all congregations re: new visitor exhibit at bethel.
smiddy3

I wonder who`s going to buy their second hand printing presses and all the equipment that goes with it ,are they going to have a garage sale ?
Or are they going to be the new/old Visitor Exhibits of how we used to reach the other sheep to fleece them.
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oh witnesses
by zeb in
1. jw
2. friends
we attended an orchestral concert last night.

before the show there was have a drink mingle thing and my dear wife met some sisters who she sees so many times a week and got into a round x round conversation on......fs arrangements.. no commentary on the music to come, the beautiful venue or the opportunity to take in such a concert.

i went to the loo .....
smiddy3

It`s like trying to convince themselves and there Bros & Sis`s that they are no part of the world ,they are only at these functions to please their partner otherwise they wouldn`t be their
like stuck says I feel your pain
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Highwood Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses v. Randy Wall
by TerryWalstrom in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.scc-csc.ca/case-dossier/info/webcastview-webdiffusionvue-eng.aspx?cas=37273&id=2017%2f2017-11-02--37273&date=2017-11-02.
smiddy3

Isn`t this the same as "For those wanting to view history " by search ? a court case in Toronto Canada ?
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October 31, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: New Visitor Exhibit at Bethel (UK)
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
october 31, 2017 to all congregations re: new visitor exhibit at bethel.
smiddy3

Kramer you beat me to it ,i was wondering if their were white Elephants on the Ark that are just surfacing now.
A good point Listener Jesus Christ must have been very busy coming up with that one ,what else has he done ?
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February 2018 Watchtower
by Listener in
1. watchtower
2. bible
note the picture on the top right hand side.

the little boy in green is standing between the man's legs (jesus), face forward.

the picture is not appropriate at all and suggestive.
smiddy3

I think this is a ridiculous suggestion/post not worthy of a comment
OOPS
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A Little Direction Please
by Brian J in
1. social
2. relationships
i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".
smiddy3

As everybody says here slow and steady is the key.And asking questions but not giving your answers is a good point.
Quote C.T Russell when he said they would never beg for money,contrast it with appeals for money in the congregation and at Assembly and Conventions ,how is it there always in the red.with a deficit ,even when they own the buildings, and show the real Estate sales made in Brooklyn these past couple of years of Millions of $$$$.
The latest one just a couple of days ago of approx.$200 million The Tower Hotel complex.
Don`t hit her with all of this in one go of course but piece by piece over time.
By the way welcome to the forum Brian J we look forward to what progress you might make with your wife and family.
Take care