john 1:3 states in the nwt, "all things came into existence through him, and apart from him (the word, or jesus) not even one thing came into existence.".
the wt states apart from him one thing came into existence, that is, jesus the first created being.. is there an explanation for this apparent contradiction?.
thanks!.
Gen.3:22 , " here the man has become like one of us " obviously he is either talking to his peers,his equals .?
Or was he talking to other members of the Trinity .?
If he was talking to the word or logos he is putting them or him on the same level as himself as being equal to him.?
Whatever you think Jehovah wasn`t talking to himself
{ and if you think he was we have even greater problems }
for those of you that can remember.... did you really believe that armageddon was going to come in 1975?
i was a child of the 60s, in my teens in the 70s and can honestly say that i never bought into it.
i saw brothers and sisters selling their homes and moving into rented property.
I guess I was one of those who hedged their bets ,it was an interesting thought that 6000 years of human history would end in 1975 and that it would be appropiate for the 1000 year of Christs reign to begin.
I was a fence sitter as far as that belief was concerned , it could happen ,it may not happen.And the society did indicate both of those scenarios ,though the emphathis was mainly that it could happen.
And unlike many who have responded so far I was 36 years old and a MS and because I didnt buy into it completely I didnt leave the JWs ` till the early `90`S
I think it was here I learned many years later that the IBSA the fore-runner of JW`s believed the 6000 years ended in the late 1800`s and that is why they believed 1914 was the end of the system of Things and they would be transported to heaven in that year.
one’s mindset and its conditioning pursue what one believes to be the “truth” which it says ‘i can perceive with my senses.
this makes possible for the life to be perceived in many different ways.
imagine all were born blind.
Sun never rises nor sets (right for the highly educated ones)
A good post venus ,I never realised I was a highly educated one
finally, after 5 years, we have received footage that shows, unmistakably, that there was a flag in the kingdom hall, while a meeting was happening.here is the video:https://youtu.be/uel3otw6gemi will post this year's pictures below.
this year we had pictures and video of three different kingdom halls with the flag!.
Was it just me ? I couldn`t see a flag anywhere in the video ,frankly it reminded me of videos that "prove" UFO`s exist it was that bad except with UFO videos at least you see what they claim is a UFO although being disjointed and grainy.
edit to add: Ok looking at it again I guess that was it in the window ? The quality of the video was extremely poor.
Just saying.
i have been sneakily looking at this forum, almost every day, ever since it began!
it has taken me till now to actually register and contribute.
(actually i did register with a different name in the beginning but never commented).. i am a pimo elder with a fairly long history of senior "positions" in the organization.
Welcome pimojw from Australia ,hopefully you can help others to see TTATT who may have been lurking for as long as you apparently have.
so i sat and suffered through the clam tonight.. everything was pretty much as dull, repetitious, and simple-minded as i have come to expect, but i was really struck by the mind-numbing idiotic comments made during the part about shunning family.. then came the book study (no real bible use) loaded with self-congratulatory b.s about how wt never has, and never will beg, solicit, or ask for money.
i could feel myself beginning to channel the old tasmanian devil cartoon character as i listened to that garbage while remembering the jdubya tv shows about how more money was going out than coming in and give more.
but finally came the most ironic (to me) part of the entire meeting and i could not help bursting out in a loud belly laugh that got me many dirty looks and heavy frowns.
It`s moments like these I just wish I was back their to confront their bullshit head on .
Surely their must be some their that see the contradictions ? and wake up ?
well.....they showed that shunning video again.
you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.
everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.
Is this a recent video ? can anybody show it ? and not the one 4 years or so ago.?
has anyone had this experience.
that once some contact is made with others here they never write again?
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Yes i`ve had that experience and when I think about it to be honest I think I`ve been guilty of it myself.
I don`t believe it`s anything malicious on anyone`s part ,hell ,it`s hard enough keeping in touch with people we physically know let alone people in cyber space / internet people we have never met.
however I do think maybe we should be a bit more attune to it ,as it can come across as rude or worse.
And I take it you are talking about PM`s ?
I don`t take it personal , and lets face it we cant please everyone in what we say or do .
we have one in australia and there is even a song about her.
i would like to know if you have someone like this among your politicians.https://youtu.be/bdwxpwl89sk.
So the majority of voters either in their ignorance or apathy or simply laziness , in the end get what they deserve.
And we in Australia have compulsory voting.
well, this month's jw broadcasting had a curious piece of history class.
samuel herd was there, but i don't remember if it was him that presented it.
the theme was "how it was to be a jw in the years 1900.".
Didn`t the "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" campaign begin with the Cedar Point convention in 1922 ?
On another point Jesus Christ never appointed Jehovah`s Witnesses as the F&DS because they didn`t exist then .
If anyone was appointed by Jesus back then it would have been the I.B.S.A. and those who became Jehovah`s Witnesses later on were actually a breakaway group that wouldn`t have had Christ Jesus approval.
