just wanted to pose the question to the group and see what the general opinion is vs what the wt may have claimed in other cases.. we all know that they have argued over clergy privilege when elder learn of a crime but keep quiet about it.
regardless of what one may feel about this, lets assume for a minute that they are correct.. all elders are directed to contact the branch when they learn of a case of child abuse.
would the conversation between the elder and the branch be considered under the "clergy privilege"?
In all of my 33 years as a Jehovah`s Witness I was always of the belief that the J.W. religion claimed it had no Clergy Class.?
That was just one other factor that distinguished them from false religion Christendom who had a Clergy/laity class distinction.
And for them to claim Clergy/Penitent in a court of law is hypocritical
my wife's parents are in very bad shape.
they are both 2nd gen jws.
my father in law worked for a large american manufacturing company in the 60s and early 70s.
Many of them that criticized Christendom as the Harlot that rides the Beast are now living in their Church funded Aged Care homes.
i created this thread so that jwr members can list their old jwr username with their username for whatever site they've moved to.
i apologize if this has already been created somewhere else.. jwr = starrynight.
jwd = starrynight9.
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i`m just a dickhead no sorry just an old fart who couldnt remember how to log back in once i was logged out
the only state or territory yet to sign up is western australia .. and so far the jehovah`s witness religion has not joined the scheme.
{ and i will be very surprised if they ever do }.
however if they don`t they will have to fight any case that is brought against them in a court of law and that in itself will be bad publicity for them .. so i am hoping they don`t join the redress scheme ..
perhaps then the media will run with it here and the result could be some outrage against the wt with the r&f taking the abuse not the gb safe in their palace. Such abuse or public notoriety will hit many jw who will be asking of their elders "what the hell has happened why weren't we told about the ARC?"
We can only hope so zeb.
has anyone else noticed that in the wt study articles the main point they want you to remember is always somewhere around paragraph 11-14?
it's like a formula.
intro and overview paragraphs 1-4. basic wt stuff 5-8 (not controversial).
Excellent points made on this topic , I need to bookmark it .
What about displaying the Tetragrammaton as a sculpture or symbol in a Kingdom hall that many have is that not a form of Idolatry ?
Just asking ?
And I must admit using the W.T. logo this way at H.Q. is really questionable .
"If the applicant is a close relative of the congregation service Committee,arrange for another elder to substitute in rating the applicant" ....LOL
In other words jobs for the boys has been rife in the organization .
Its not what you know its who you know ....,LOL
first of all i just want to say a quick thank you to all of you who’s been listening to my story and my little rants and dilemmas lol.
this website has helped me so much to not feel alone and to keep me from feeling like i’m going crazy.
anyways, i’m defenitly going to try much harder from this point on to play the part until i move out after this summer.
He had no response, but still defended the way we did things and said the Catholics are much worse.
I`m not so sure that the Catholics are worse when you consider their are well over 1 Billion Catholics in the world and only 8 Million Jehovah`s Witnesses .
It would interesting to compare the ratio of Child sexual abuse cases within the two religions .
My gut feeling is that the Jehovah`s Witnesses would not fare well .
However I`m not qualified to do such a comparison.
this is my first post.
i'm still a jw but am inactive.
im struggling with the fact that i agree with some of the doctrines (i,e, the stance on the trinity, there is no hell) but i disagree with a lot of things (i,e, men can't have beards, women have to wear skirts).
I add my welcome to you also Dval on this site you can ask anything you like and state anything you like (within reason) and while some people may agree and disagree with you you will not be shunned.
This is an excellent site to ask questions and many people here are more than qualified to give you an informed logical answer.
Take care
please explain some of your past experiences of dealing with dealing with nosy brothers and sisters and how you dealt with them.
also have you ever dealt with a brother or sister who brings up your past just as a new topic for a conversation?
that happened to me once.
Welcome to the board kennylazo1 and I agree with Simon
