a huge realization hit me the other day while listening to a podcast that discussed the "lineage of jesus".. according to the bible, "the messiah" was to come through king davids lineage.
but, if you wade through the entire chapter of matthew that lists "son of ...son of...son of...etc", it becomes obvious that jesus did not come through davids line at all!.
in fact, that lineage lists jospeh (mary's husband) as being in davids line.
Before her impregnation, angel Gabriel told Mary that she would be impregnated by the Holy Spirit. Mary told the following words to the angel Gabriel, which shows she consented to it:
Then Mary said: “Look! Jehovah’s slave girl! May it happen to me according to your declaration.” Luke 1:38
So that was not rape. At verse 47, Mary says that she was 'overjoyed' with this news.
So then does that make Mary an adulteress ? Was she guilty of porneia ? a whore ?
i stopped attending meetings about three months ago.
after researching everything i could find on jehovahs witnesses (which is a lot) i can happily say i am awake and free.
i was a baptized witness for over 25 year.
HBF welcome to the forum ,i agree with other members here just back off a bit as far as your hubby is concerned but by all means celebrate your kids birthdays .don`t under any circumstances allow the JW/WT to get their claws into them .
Your hubby sounds like a typical average JW who has a feel good attitude about the religion and not one based on knowledge or facts .
What I would call a lazy intellectual belief in the religion .Don`t care too much about doctrine or dogma ,never really look into it ,just happy to hear about a new World where we can pat lions and pandas .
And worst of all they are happy to let others do their thinking for them , its so much easier .
My heart goes out to you ,I hope you have success in the long run in getting him out.
hi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).
that means it can proceed further.
it is a first victory.
The WTB&TS has also been instrumental in keeping the crime of child sexual abuse against children hidden from law enforcement agencies and child protection agencies with there policies .
To contact the legal department first and only report it if it is mandatory in the state where it occurred .
Otherwise keep it in -house and we will deal with it ourselves in our judicial committee .
So many Elders have been guilty of complicit in a crime against minors because of Watchtower policy.
Why bring a lawsuit against the Watchtower Society? They are not responsible for child abuse.
They are responsible for covering up child sexual abuse within there organization and sweeping it under the carpet and are complicit in those crimes by not reporting those abuses to the appropriate authorities when it comes to there attention .
Allowing other minors within the JW organization and potential victims from outside of their religion to be abused by there D2D activity within the wider community .
angus stewart who did such a tremendous job in exposing many of the wrongs regarding how the watchtower deals with child abuse accusations during the australian royal commission into the handling of child abuse has been given a well deserved appointment.a media release on 22 feb. 2019 states in part -.
mr darren jackson sc, mr michael o'bryan qc, mr angus stewart sc and mr john snaden have been appointed as judges of the federal court of australia...mr stewart will commence in the sydney registry on 25 february 2019. he completed a bachelor of arts in 1986 and a bachelor of laws in 1991 at the university of natal in south africa, and completed a bachelor of civil law (hons) at the university of oxford in 1994. mr stewart practised at the bar in south africa for 15 years, with five years as silk.
he was called to the new south wales bar in 2011 and was appointed silk in 2014. mr stewart has specialised in admiralty and maritime law, international trade and international commercial arbitration, in addition to practice across a number of other areas of law.. https://www.attorneygeneral.gov.au/media/pages/appointments-to-the-federal-court-of-australia.aspx
I wish him well in his new appointment , kudos to the man .
my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.
he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.
the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.
Jehovah`s Witnesses need to stop reading WT material and go back to reading what the Bible actually says ,
such as the illustration / parable of the prodigal son ,short, sweet and to the point.
Luke 15:11-32
he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .
his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.
the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.
So now we hear that George Pell will spend the next two weeks in jail /remand section till march the 13th before his sentencing .
His bail was revoked .
The { Catholic } whole world waits with baited breath ,what will happen to the most senior catholic in Australia by the Australian judiciary and what will happen in the Vatican with such a prominent member being convicted of child sexual abuse .
How will Pope Francis respond now.
he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .
his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.
the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.
Does Pope Francis have any other option other than defrocking cardinal George Pell ? According to the Catholic Churches teachings he remains a priest forever ,however the church could strip him of any of his official duties as a priest.
This case has put the Catholic Church and the Vatican under the microscope worldwide given George Pell`s most senior position in the Vatican.
If they want to save face around the world , in some small measure surely there is no other option open for Pope Francis .?
if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.
i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..
true worship was restored in 1919 ?
What were the teaching and preaching in 1919 that they still believe today ?
If they have today rejected many of there teachings in 1919 as old light ,how can they claim to have true worship today ?
So God created the heavens and the earth in the dark ,that explains everything.!
he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .
his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.
the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.
Apparently the rest of the world new about this since last December ,however there was a suppression order for it not to be released here in Australia .
Today that suppression order was lifted
.Some months ago the Victorian Herald Sun newspaper had a front page story about the ban and couldn`t say much about it except to say "its in the news everywhere else but Australia " without mentioning George Pell or the Catholic Church .
George Pell also became very high up at the Vatican ,the pressure is now on Pope Francis to excommunicate him from the Church.
It will be interesting to see how that goes.
You can bet your life there was a lot more accusations against Pell however lawyers only go for the couple that are more substantiated where they know they will get a conviction.
Thanks for posting this wozza
