Posts by Duran

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League of Nations as the disgusting thing that causes desolation

by xaminewt in

so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?

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Duran

Therefore when Daniel 12:11 says to count 1,290 days from the "setting up" of the "disgusting thing that causes desolation" it must, be referring setting up of the United Nations in 1945

The counting does not start from 'setting up' as in creating/forming the UN, it starts from the 'putting in place' the UN.

The UN/KOTN is 'put in place' sometime during WW3 when it is given authority. At that point it becomes the 8th king. The UN could not be the 8th king upon it being started. It was a newborn in 1945.

[ 31 And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature.“ And they will put in place (5414.) the disgusting thing (KOTN) that causes desolation.32 “And those who act wickedly against the covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But the people who know their God will prevail and act effectively. 33 And those having insight among the people will impart understanding to the many. And they will be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for some days.]

Rev 17:13;13:5,7,10;Dan 11:36-37;2 thess 2:4;Daniel 12:9-13

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Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

by slimboyfat in

i would suggest:.

the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

Duran

If there was any other way to save mankind,

Save mankind from what?

an absolute necessity for our salvation

Will any who lived and died before Jesus died, will any of them be resurrected?

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Why Is Watchtower (Supposedly a Family Friendly Christian Publisher) Obsessed with Oral Sex?

by Sea Breeze in

if you do a search on the wt website and type in "oral sex", you will get 69 results.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=oral+sex&p=par&r=occ&st=a .

why does the wt.

Duran

If you do a search on the WT website and type in "oral sex"
Why does the WT. print so much about it?
What's the deal?

Why does 'one' do a search about that to begin with?

EVERY SINGLE 'WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH...' EVER ON SEINFELD (youtube.com)

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League of Nations as the disgusting thing that causes desolation

by xaminewt in

so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?

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Duran

Okay, if you say so.

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League of Nations as the disgusting thing that causes desolation

by xaminewt in

so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?

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Duran

why this could be anything but inconsistent?

It is not 'inconsistent', it is very 'consistent' in that both of those teachings are false. False teachings/lies are what the WTS/GB are good at being 'consistent' about.

It may prove to be true that the UN is the 'disgusting thing' (KOTN/8th king), but it was not so upon being set up in 1945. The 8th king comes about at some point during WW3.

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Watchtower Used to Teach Jesus Was Not an Angel and was "the Lord from Heaven" Who Died on a Cross!

by Sea Breeze in

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no wonder they instructed congregation elders to throw away old literature from kingdon hall libraries.

Duran

The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ is used interchangeably here. Does it concern you that Gods Word says you are not a Christian if you don’t allow the Spirit of Christ to reside in you?

[42 Look! My servant, whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved! I have put my spirit in him; He will bring justice to the nations.]

[61 The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, Because Jehovah anointed me to declare good news to the meek. He sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And the wide opening of the eyes to the prisoners,]

[37 You know the subject that was talked about throughout all Ju·deʹa, starting from Galʹi·lee after the baptism that John preached: 38 about Jesus who was from Nazʹa·reth, how God anointed him with holy spirit and power, and he went through the land doing good and healing all those oppressed by the Devil, because God was with him.]

[16 After being baptized, Jesus immediately came up from the water; and look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw God’s spirit descending like a dove and coming upon him.]

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Watchtower Used to Teach Jesus Was Not an Angel and was "the Lord from Heaven" Who Died on a Cross!

by Sea Breeze in

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no wonder they instructed congregation elders to throw away old literature from kingdon hall libraries.

Duran

It could mean just what is says: God was manifest in the flesh.

It shows here the it was the 'son of God' who was manifest is the flesh.

[ 8 The one who practices sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up the works of the Devil.]

[14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth.]

'God' there is referring to Jehovah. 'Son' there is referring to Jesus. Jesus (the word) is the one who was made manifest in the flesh.

Even if 1 Timothy 3:16 said "god' and not 'he', that would not mean that 'god' there is referring to Jehovah God. 1 John 3:8 and John 1:14 makes clear that it is Jesus (the word) the 'son of God' is who was made manifest in the flesh.

The reason it could have said 'god' even though referring to Jesus is because Jesus is also said to be a 'god'. Again though, that does not make him Jehovah God, just like Satan is said to be a 'god' and yet you do not claim he is Jehovah God.

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Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

by slimboyfat in

i would suggest:.

the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

Duran

~~Eight million JWs~~ do not personally know Jesus Christ.

Eight billion people do not personally know Jesus Christ.

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Overlapping Generation

by pandorasbox1914 in

the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

Duran

The overlapping generation teaching is true! It all makes sense, any who don't believe it or understand it must have the wrong attitude. LOL!

Overlapping Generation - Jehovah Witnesses Weirdest Doctrine (youtube.com)

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Watchtower Used to Teach Jesus Was Not an Angel and was "the Lord from Heaven" Who Died on a Cross!

by Sea Breeze in

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no wonder they instructed congregation elders to throw away old literature from kingdon hall libraries.

Duran

3739. ὅς, (hos, hé, ho)

[ 16 Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He (3739) was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’]

[ 7 Little children, let no one mislead you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as that one is righteous. 8 The one who practices sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up the works of the Devil.]

[14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth.]

[ 9 By this the love of God was revealed in our case, that God sent his only-begotten Son into the world so that we might gain life through him.]

[ 11 And this is the witness, that God gave us everlasting life, and this life is in his Son. 12 The one who has the Son has this life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have this life.]

[ 31 But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name.]

[13 I write you these things so that you may know that you have life everlasting, you who put your faith in the name of the Son of God.]

[21 After eight days, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus (2424) , the name given by the angel before he was conceived.]

2424. Iésous – Jesus, the transliteration of the Hebrew term, 3091 /Lṓt ("Yehoshua"/Jehoshua)

3091. Yehoshua - (Jehoah is Salvation)