While magic, demons , the devil, etc are all very real, the religion of JWs are not devil worshipers. All Christian religions, including JWs, acknowledge and actively delineate the 'devil' ad nauseum... whereas the true occult religion vehemently denies the existence of God. There is no in between.
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Is the Watchtower Ultimately a Creation of Fallen Angels?
by Sea Breeze ina watchtower in ceremonial magical tradition is a tutelary spirit of one of the four cardinal points or quarters (east, south, west and north).
in many magical traditions, they are understood to be enochian angels... originating with the enochian tradition of john dee, a version of it was popularized by the hermetic order of the golden dawn, which became hugely influential in modern western esotericism, including wicca.
the watchtowers are invoked during the ritual of casting a magic circle.. .
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Biden calls Trump supporters garbage
by moomanchu ina comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???
potus pappy joe to the rescue!!
he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .
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Anony, it means the Biden camp and media are trying to gaslight everyone again. This 'clarification' was reported by CNN this morning. CNN also had a panel saying Biden stuttered when he said Trump's supporters are garbage and that we misunderstood what he said.
I'm all for the Left trying to keep explaining away what Biden meant, their hole just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
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Biden calls Trump supporters garbage
by moomanchu ina comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???
potus pappy joe to the rescue!!
he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .
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Biden's camp has 'clarified' what he actually said tho... spokesperson stated that 'Biden put an apostrophe after the word supporters'.
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1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it
by neat blue dog inhe will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.
a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.
generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..
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Vidiot- show me a man who doesn’t go down on his woman, and I’ll show you a woman who steps out on her man.
Truer words lol...
Most men, especially religious ones, are loathe to admit that some women have a higher and stronger sex drive than they do and if given the chance she could 'wring her husband out like a washtowel' and come right back for.
Yes, the fear that women are as sexual as men themselves is terrifying hehe
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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?
by Touchofgrey inis there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.
the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.
i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.
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Thanks for demonstrating that you couldn’t properly identify what constituted the false equivalence.
Of more importance, I reminded you that Jesus motivates the invisible yet very real heart and mind.
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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?
by Touchofgrey inis there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.
the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.
i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.
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The problem (for the apologist) is that “mind and emotions” are contingent on ‘flesh and blood’ and can’t be demonstrated to exist independently of them.
Dependent is not the same as equivalent.
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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?
by Touchofgrey inis there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.
the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.
i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.
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Touchofgrey - is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?
It's the wrong question. You are confusing Jesus with something like Bigfoot.
You ask this question because you assume that only physical and tangible things are real, ignoring the fact that a person's mind and emotions are just as real as their flesh and blood. The concept of Jesus has nothing to do with a physical man that may have been independently verified by other people or not. It has everything to do with how Jesus moves and motivates the heart and mind of a person.
If a bonafide independently verified photograph and accompanying report was produced on Jesus people would simply keep debating the next point on him.
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God won't lift a finger to help you.
by nicolaou insea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
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Tonus -I cannot base my expectation on human standards of morality or behavior, because God transcends those. It strikes me as inappropriate to even call him good or bad, moral or immoral, just or unjust. He exists on a completely different moral plane, and those terms do not apply. They are, as you note, human standards.
If you truly believe and understand this, then you would refrain from categorizing what God does or doesn't do as 'good' or 'bad' yourself. In the absence of your own limited human opinion, you would simply let God determine it.
I don't have to read his mind and heart in order to understand what to expect. His actions seem sufficient. And he is, after all, unchanging. To expect him to act against the nature that he has displayed all this time strikes me as futile.
You assume you understand what is the eternal future as God knows it. And even if you did, to categorize it (as you indicated) based on our understanding of a human life of 80 years in the present would be futile.
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A Fun Topic: BEFORE God
by Terry inyuh gotta start somewhere, right?.
big bang theory is not a theory of the creation of the universe, but rather a model of the history and evolution of the universe from its earliest moments.
it wasn't really until the time of st. augustine that the idea of "out of nothing" entered the discussion.. a reading of genesis doesn't force the "out of nothing" into it at all.. in fact, a kind of chaotic "something" was put into form - or - something out of "something", the way adam is formed from red mud and eve from the rib.
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We date the birth of PHILOSOPHY back to ancient Greeks who posited:Matter is neither created nor destroyed; only changed, mingled, transformed, etc.MATTER always existed, in other words.
Yes, if all is in the mind of God...to the extent that we can understand the concept of 'mind'.
Since God is infinite, then 'matter' has always existed.
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God won't lift a finger to help you.
by nicolaou insea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
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Tonus -These are the actions of someone who should not engender our trust.
Because you expect a different action from the Creator. And you base your expectation on your everyday human to human relationships.
One has to wonder about the nature of a person who behaves in such a manner. When this person is also the unstoppable force behind the universe and the only person who can determine our eternal future, the notion that he might exist should terrify us.
Here again, you are assuming you have read the mind and heart of God.