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  Who is considered more bizarre?

  by incognito2014 in

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  jws or mormons.

  from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..

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  Nothing with caffeine.

  Nothing with alcohol

  Also pretty sure the DoC speaks negatively of corn. (Wheat for the man and corn for the ox...)
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  Who is considered more bizarre?

  by incognito2014 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws or mormons.

  from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..

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  TD

  Anyway - I always understood it was magic spectacles and not a hat, but the hat seem to be the focus and underpants!.

  I believe it was what they call a "Seer stone."

  https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/seer-stones?lang=eng

  The person puts the stone in a hat or a large bowl and then puts their face in it, (Think Harry Potter and the Pensieve...)

  The stone then allegedly reveals to the practitioner the location of lost objects, buried treasure, yada, yada, yada.
  
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  Who is considered more bizarre?

  by incognito2014 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws or mormons.

  from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..

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  TD

  Depends on how well you know the two groups. Mormons appear more mainstream from a distance, but they are every bit as odd as the JWs

  The belief in ancient American civilizations rivaling Greece or Rome at the height of their power is a good example.
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  EVERY Religion has Hypocrites- even the TRUE One!

  by MuchCloserLook in

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  so, if you expect to find 'saints' with halos, you will never find real christians.. after over 30 years of being a jw, there are many things about the org that disturb me- yet no one else even acknowledges the only true god, as jesus referred to him.. not a 'they' or 'them' ('trinity')- but him!and he has always had the name jehovah (yehovah in hebrew)- even though the koine greek had no version of it when the nt was written.. so among the many things real christians have to endure- is often each other!

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  Koine Greek had no version of God's Name- until later.

  Just a minor clarification that hopefully does not detract from your point.
  

  Foreign names are adopted into new languages via simple phonetic transliteration.
  

  In other words, Greek speakers would have simply repeated what they heard Hebrew speakers saying in a manner not unlike an English speaker saying "Vladimir Putin" when he hears "Владимир Путин" or "Xi Jinping" when he hears "习近平"

  So it's really not a question of whether Ancient Greek had a version of the name. It's a question of whether Greek speakers ever heard it spoken
  
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  Need help. Please and thank you.

  by lastmanstanding in

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  i have a trove of old watchtower literature.

  i know of course, and for example, to keep the three first volumes of the watchtower (bound) and a bunch of other items.

  (and i handle them delicately.).

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  TD

  I guess it really depends on the genre you're interested in

  Failed predictions?

  Quack medicine?

  Bad science?

  Environmental alarmism?

  Political views?
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  The irony of 2 Tim 3:16-17

  by pseudoxristos in

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  all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of god may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.. most scholars don't think paul wrote 2 timothy.. every time i here a witness quote this verse, i will be reminded of the irony.. -undisputed-.

  1 thessalonians.

  galatians.

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  TD

  The only scriptures were the OLD TESTAMENT..

  To echo what Half banana said above:

  Why not The Book of Jubilees? Or The Assumption of Moses, which is a likely source for Jude 1:9?

  How about The Book of Enoch or the Book of Jasher or The Epistle to the Laodiceans or The Life of Adam and Eve, or The Martyrdom of Isaiah or Paul's original letter to the Corinthians. (Referenced in 1 Corinthians)

  The point is that we have no way of knowing what writings the early Christians considered authoritative. All the writings I mentioned above are either quoted or referenced in what we call the New Testament today.
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  I think Limbaugh is out and out wrong on this

  by JimmyYoung in

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  i listen to rush most days for entertainment.

  i agree with him on some issues and disagree on others.

  but today he said something i believe is an out and out lie.

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  TD

  If we’re still talking about the OP question - Rush isn’t wrong on that

  I'm wondering if you actually listened to what Limbaugh said.

  He claimed that the flu shot was not not a vaccine

  It most certainly is a vaccine. (You do understand what the term, quadrivalent means right???)

  
  

  And he is also right on the flu vaccine, we don’t know what the next strain of the flu will look like so we just kind of guess using last 6 months worth of flu strains.

  Correct, but Limbaugh didn't say that. His misunderstanding of this fact was his rationale for claiming it wasn't a vaccine.
  
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  Remember the Revelation book?

  by wozza in

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  i recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.

  i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.

  who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.

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  Maybe if you overlook the fact that Babylon was a city-state and the difference between Babylonians and Persians is debatable..
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  Remember the Revelation book?

  by wozza in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.

  i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.

  who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.

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  TD

  This current lot not only lack imagination, they lack the necessary intellect.

  Yes.

  The current crop of leaders and policy makers don't even understand the precepts and methodology behind previous doctrines.

  A religion built from the ground up on typology can't abandon it as an interpretational method, for example.
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  I think Limbaugh is out and out wrong on this

  by JimmyYoung in

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  i listen to rush most days for entertainment.

  i agree with him on some issues and disagree on others.

  but today he said something i believe is an out and out lie.

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  TD

  LV101
  

  The function of the audience is to make the talk show host look good. This isn't just true of Limbaugh, it's true of all talk shows.

  Rush Limbaugh is more honest about this than most, as he's said as much many times.
  

  Guests are rare, calls are carefully screened and knowledgeable critics calling in about an embarrassing mistake the host has made are practically nonexistent.

  When it comes to vaccines, some provide long term immunity and some don't. It really depends on the disease. Tetanus vaccinations are very temporary and if you work with your hands at all, you need to keep current.

  Influenza is especially nasty in this regard as there's more than 100 potential variations of just the Type A variety alone.