Yes. And the JW's inspired John Lennon's song, Imagine
And "The NWT" was the correct answer to a Jeopardy question about the most accurate translation.
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31Just wanting confirmation on an unofficial JW experience
by joe134cd injust wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this unofficial jw experience that my father received by email.
i’ve told him that it against wt rules to forward unofficial accounts.
but of course he just puts that down to apostate driven lies.
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Quit Quietly now more than ever
by gone for good inthe amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
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Quit Quietly now more than ever
by gone for good inthe amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
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Quit Quietly now more than ever
by gone for good inthe amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
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gone for good
I have no idea what a UBM might be
Sorry,
UBM = UnBelieving Mate. It was a very common term here on JWN, because there were a lot of us participating, at least at one time. Like JW, xJW, NWT, PIMO etc., it didn't usually need an explanation
I'm not abysmally stupid (Egentlich spreche ich drei Sprachen und lese zwei weitere...) but am not as up on JW things as those of you who have lived it and consequently sometimes miss something obvious.
Long story short, I paid an attorney a boat-load of money to research this subject when my wife was starting to fade and the prognosis was pretty dismal. There is virtually no legal recourse here in the U.S. for JW's who want to exit the faith unscathed. (I would be happy to elaborate if you want...)
If the Zurich decision has repercussions for JW's in Switzerland, that would be great. If it also extends into Germany and Austria because of the strong bilateral relationships between the three, that would be even better.
But I'm not grasping the connection to the English speaking world, especially here in the U.S. with our strong sentiment of caveat emptor. (And would add that the current political climate is driving us even farther in that direction.)
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Quit Quietly now more than ever
by gone for good inthe amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
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I don't pretend to know how it works in the UK.
Here in the US, disassociation is not an exercise of ecclesiastical authority.
It is a voluntary action initiated by the congregant and the function of the Elders is only to confirm that the individual really meant it.
Unless things have changed (?) I'm not sure how the letter you guys are taking about would not be construed as a formal disassociation in and of itself.
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Quit Quietly now more than ever
by gone for good inthe amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
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Did you ever know a JW who was political?
by wolverines inone black sister would always slam the jews when there was anything on the radio or tv about the palestinian's.
i knew others who had other ideas that were strange and not neutral as we were told to be.
the black sister would dress like she was from africa in a dashiki robe from time to time.
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Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)
by BluesBrother init is a challenge next sunday for them .
due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).
this article makes a grand claim in par 2.
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Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)
by BluesBrother init is a challenge next sunday for them .
due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).
this article makes a grand claim in par 2.
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In the USA, why so often is the vote for President just a vote against someone?
by RubaDub inin my lifetime, (i will include kennedy even though i was probably breast-feeding at the time), but it seems that there have been relatively few presidents that we vote "for.
" my list would be kennedy, reagan, clinton and obama.
i'm not talking about their politics here but who generally got voted for, instead of simply voting against.. any thoughts?.
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A couple reasons, I thinkSince we never seem to have a viable third party candidate, we end up choosing between two people. A vote for one is automatically a vote against the other whether we meant it that way or not.
Both the Democrats and Republicans have a history of running geriatric disasters, not because they are the best candidate, but because it's "their turn." When a candidate is old enough and/or appears to be mentally ossified, people are forced to take that into consideration. Bob Dole lost even here in my Republican state, mostly because he appeared old and infirm.
I do understand what you're saying though. Candidates who truly inspire their voters are few and far between.
