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  Obligations to Friends

  by StinkyPantz in

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  are there any?

  to restate: when is comes to being friends with someone, are you "obligated" to do certain things?

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  For instance, a friend gets stuck on the side of the road @ 2:00 AM. It's nasty out....do I *want* to go? Hell no - but I will, out of a sense of obligation to my friend - and most of my friends would do the same for me. ? pettygrudger

  My goodness, Pettygrudger! Your words do have a way of tickling the brain at times.
  
  You have a point.
  
  The central idea, in the scenario you describe, though, is from whence the sense of obligation comes. I may feel a compulsion to do something?an "obligation"?but my friend does not obligate. Did I say that right?
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  Obligations to Friends

  by StinkyPantz in

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  are there any?

  to restate: when is comes to being friends with someone, are you "obligated" to do certain things?

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  Do you mean, however, that friends aren't obliged to tell all their deepest darkest secrets? ? LittleToe

  No, not obliged. Just the opposite, I think. Free.
  
  

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  a good act doesn't stop there. It's not fair to contiually bring it up when you WENT and DID something for them... it seems to diminish the act somehow. It's sounds like score keeping to me.? StinkyPantz

  Agreed.
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  A Badger's Tail, Episode IV (and final)

  by Badger in

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  episode iv: a new hope

  ?where are we going, man?

  ?i don?t know, but we gotta go.?

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  I was still a believer, I just wanted answers from an outside source. That damn college book learnin? had taught me to look for multiple sources from several different points of view. I reasoned that if my faith was really well-placed, the org would hold up under scrutiny.

  Oh bruddah!! I guess you know better than that by now you... you... you... apostate, you!!
  
  Great story, told well. (Loved the ending!) To satisfy my prurient interests, I wish you would've elaborated more in a couple places, but overall? Two enthusiastic thumbs up.
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  Obligations to Friends

  by StinkyPantz in

  1. jw
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  are there any?

  to restate: when is comes to being friends with someone, are you "obligated" to do certain things?

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  "Obligated"? To astrict, bind, constrain, force, indebt, make indebted, oblige, restrain, restrict? Nah. Not in my book.

  But friends are moved. For example, if you know a friend just lost their job, or their pet, you won't feel an obligation to go over and put an arm 'em and cry w/ 'em, but I bet you will. If you're a friend, anyway. For friends, you just GO. And DO.
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  Why So Many Apostates Hale From Texas

  by TMS in

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  texas is an ugly state.

  that was sort of my view 38 years ago,.

  traveling from the base of mt.

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  Not nearly long enough. Your post, I mean.
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  How do you feel about death?

  by 3rdEye in

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  hi all, forgive me and my n00bness if this has been discussed, or if i started this thread in the wrong place.

  how does everyone feel about death,and what happens to you afterward?

  do you still believe what the wts teaches?

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  Scared for what I will miss. Had that live forever with my kids plan going, before I learned that I was in a cult. ? confusedjw

  Pretty much sums up my thoughts on it. For 30yrs I lived with the idea that I would never die. Knowing now that I will is somewhat terrifying to me at times.
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  A Badger's Tail, Episode II

  by Badger in

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  act ii: dachskampf (badger?s struggle)

  ?in all of history, no group has done more damage than those who thought they were doing the right thing.?

  charles schultz

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  Well, Badger, I went about this backwards?saw/read Part III first?but at this point at the end of Part II, I'm pulling for you. This oughta be good!...
  
  
  p.s. Indeed it's true: everyone has a story to tell.
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  A Badger's Tail, Episode I

  by Badger in

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  i won?t pretend this will be as interesting as little toe?s or any of the other stories?this is just mine.

  i?ve told it in bits and pieces over the last year, with and without a few self-aggrandizing embellishments?so here goes:

  prelude: badger meets world

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  I could be wrong--I don't think I am--but you are a mighty fine writer.
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  A Badger's Tail, Episode III

  by Badger in

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  note: i appreciate everyone's comments, and i'll start replying to them at the end...but keep them coming!

  episode iii: the badger starts digging out

  ?a good sailor never knows where he?s going until he gets there, and even then he?s not sure.?

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  (to be continued?sucks, don?t it?) Badger

  Not at all! I wish the tale of my exit from the Org was this interesting.
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  Cute but very disturbing... Send your kid a letter from Santa...

  by Elsewhere in

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  i love to get into the whole christmas spirit thing, but i never take it to the point of lying to or deceiving children about it.

  i try to teach kids that it is the spirit of christmas that matters... then i saw this thing.

  parents are actively trying to deceive their kids by offering them "proof" that santa is real.

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  My son was extremely distrustful from the get go - he knew by 4 that there was no such thing as a true Santa. He was always just to damn analytical about everything. ? pettygrudger

  Four, huh? Man, that's funny!

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  ... when I caught my Mom with her hand under my pillow, I was really hurt and disappointed that my parents would lie to me. It hurt for a long time, then I put two and two together and figured there's no Santa either. I always wished they told me the truth. I felt foolish when kids at school knew before I did and all the time I defended my parents "word". "IT IS SO, THERE"S A SANTA, 'Cause MY MOM said so!!! " ? wizedup

  That's sad. Certainly one of the very real downsides to being taught/believing in Santa. How old where you when you found out, btw?
  
  Still, most kids are unaffected by the realization that there is no Santa and never draw any connection to the fantasy and dishonest parents. I can't say for myself about that, though. My mother became a loyal Dub when I was five, so the realization that there is no Santa Claus was never something I had to deal with personally. I was never taught about him to begin w/.
  
  I wouldn't mind my five-year-old experiencing the magic of Christmas like other kids, but my JW wife makes that impossible. Hopefully Baby Girl is the last generation of this particular branch of my family's tree to be so influenced by the Watchtower Society. I can only hope.