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  But where else should we go? Can you answer this question?

  by purrpurr in

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  having watched many jc youtube videos one question that gets asked is "where else would you go?".

  in other words if not jehovah's witnesses then what other religion or organisation would you go to?.

  it's one that i have trouble answering, what would you say?.

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  scratchme1010

  Having watched many JC YouTube videos one question that gets asked is "where else would you go?". In other words if not Jehovah's witnesses then what other religion or organisation would you go to?

  It's one that I have trouble answering, what would you say?

  To me it's not really that deep. That's the oldest trick in the book that cults use to gain converts. True, some people may not have an answer to that question, but what they are doing is throwing a smoke cloud to what I believe is the important thing to consider, which is this: Why are you feeling like you need a place to go? What exactly is triggering that need for looking/finding some place to belong? What need do you have that makes you start that quest? What is missing that makes you feel like you need to ask questions and look for answers?

  Most people address the need to belong somewhere without stepping back a little ans ask themselves why, what are they feeling that many other people don't, that makes them go look for answers? Why do you have to "go somewhere"? Looking for what? Support, company, comfort, answers, a sense of safety from the state of the world, an explanation to their suffering, hope for a better future?

  I truly believe that the most important part is not finding a place to go, but asking yourself why are you looking for a place to go in the first place, and then address the answer to that question.
  
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  Don't have sexual fantasies! Today's watchtower...

  by purrpurr in

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  2. bible

  the watchtower today says not to think of sex, or to have sexual fantasies.

  i'm just wondering... how many people in the hall hearing this watchtower today would be having sexual fantasies?

  sitting there thinking about sister hottie or brother hunky ?.

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  The Watchtower today says not to think of sex, or to have sexual fantasies. I'm just wondering... how many people in the hall hearing this Watchtower today would be having sexual fantasies? Sitting there thinking about sister hottie or brother hunky ?
  
  As humans with functional sexual organs it's practically impossible to not think about sex it's how we are built. The Borg are basically setting the sheep up to fail.
  
  And do people really go to the elders about their sexual fantasies? Which is what the Watchtower is telling them to do?
  

  What I find extremely irresponsible, disrespectful and dangerous from them saying things like that, is the fact that there are people out there with mental health issues, some of which come from sexual abuse and sexual trauma. Statements like this can trigger a number of neurotic guilt related issues in some people. This causes harm to some people.
  

  The WT can't care less about harming people with severe issues, and there are many people (or at least there were back when i was in) in that organization who join because of their issues, wanting to bring peace of mind from the wrong source. It is very irresponsible from their part to expect people to not have their bodies and mind function the way they are wired. But it's just appalling that they don't even consider that there are people in their congregations with deeper issues related to their sexuality or with sexual abuse, where things like this can make things worse for them.

  Then at the same time, they have no problem constantly talking about fornication, adultery, homosexuality, rape, etc, as the Bible has so many graphic descriptions of sexual acts.
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  I came here three years ago for support and to make friends

  by KateWild in

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  this site is such a great and valuable resource and simon is to be commended for running it for so long.

  when i first came i was in such a bad state and really needed support and friendship.

  so many posters commented on my threads and showed genuine care some are real life friends, some are facebook friends, some i talk to on the phone and some are forum friends.. i have just realised though that everyone online is not your friend.

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  scratchme1010

  My two cents. I'm not your friend, nor your enemy as I just joined this group very recently. I am not offended by your post, and I am the kind of person that can handle things that are not too pleasant to hear.
  

  There are a few things about online forums in general that everyone should keep in mind:

  1 - Anyone can join this forum claiming that is here for support and that is a JW or ex-JW and there's absolutely no way of knowing if that person is telling the truth. That opens the doors for all kinds of people to join the forum.

  2 - You never know what people are going through, you never know the state of mind of people when they type anything in these forums. You never know what's of people's minds, their intentions, their issues, and you never know what triggers anger or other negative emotions in people. Also, people can change their minds about how they feel about a given person.
  

  3 - Becoming or acting tribal (I'm friends with this and that, but not friends with this and that) looks and sounds a lot like the JW practice of disfellowshipping people. I don't think that's healthy in thins particular type of forum.
  

  4 - Relationships can be mended and can improve (granted, they can degrade too). I truly believe that posting negative comments about a particular person (even if you are truly hurt and it seems like you are very hurt) is not going to promote support for the other person or you.

  My rule is that if there's a post or poster I don't feel brings positive support to me, I just let it be. If a person changes around me, I try to find out why, but if I get attitude, I just walk away (or stop acknowledging that person, unless the person attacks me, then I set some boundaries).

  Something I'd suggest to you is to look at the fact that people do change, people may not have your best interest at heart, people my try to use you, some people are crazy... in other words, this forum is no different than the entire universe outside of it. Also, Singling out one person in a negative light may create an atmosphere where nobody gets support, which is the main purpose of this forum.
  
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  Finally "they" have reinstated me! that was easy!!!

  by Prometheus in

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  2. beliefs

  it was rather quick one.

  in just few months and after attending all of their meetings and giving them a nice show, i'm back to the org!!!

  (what a relief-sarcastic laugh) .

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  Congratulations? I guess I'm missing some background stroy.
  
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  exposed 3 jw's in front of my jw dad

  by JunkYardDog in

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  on a road trip with my jw dad and stopped at the rest stop.

  this jw lady walked up to me with a craptower.

  big mistake.

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  My father is in a very weak health state. That's the only reason why I wouldn't do that in front of him, you know, being decent human being and all. However, had he been in better shape, I'd actually be looking for the opportunity to do that.

  Don't know about your father, JunkYardDog, but mine was the typical born-again weirdo fanatic.
  
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  If God is the Creator, who created God or how did he evolve?

  by KateWild in

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  if god is the creator, who created god or how did he evolve?.

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  The answer is actually quite simple: There isn't such thing as "God".
  
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  We Cannot Understand Because We Are Not Perfect

  by berrygerry in

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  starting this thread because of katewild's post.

  (from where came god?).

  the unanswerable questions of life are usually attributed to: "we are imperfect, so cannot understand.

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  scratchme1010

  So, perfect Adam with 100% brain function, allowed his little head to outmanoeuvre his unparalleled perfect brain (even though they never actually had had sex yet)?
  

  ...or there never was such "Adam". That makes more sense to me.
  
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  Won't get fooled again .....

  by The Rebel in

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  having left the witnesses i hope i won't get " fooled again".

  yet life outside the organisation seems one big advertistiment telling me how useless i am.

  these advertisements tell me i am physically ugly, which can only be corrected by buying the advertisers " answer to my prayers" product.

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  scratchme1010

  I know that many people end in organizations like the WT, thinking that they may get shielded from the bad influence and bombarding from the world out there about pretty much everything.

  The reality is that the world and life in general can be ugly and tough, but as many of us know now, there isn't any place to go. The WT capitalizes in people's fears or disappointments with the state of the world in order to gain members.

  Part of my healing involves a lot of acceptance of "the world", with all the good and bad things that it has.
  
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  disfellowshipped family and friend being reinstated

  by Together in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  new to the forums and looking for someone who may have had a similar experience.

  i have been disfellowshipped going on 30 years now.

  within those thirty years i have built myself a life and slowly learned to cope with the shunning from family and friends.

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  I think that it's very painful to be submitted to such undeserving mistreatment. Long ago I learned not to accept my JW family's "attempts" at relationships for as long as they remain JWs. They are not, never going to respect my life, my decision, and their attempts have always been for them to feel good about themselves, never real interest in me.

  I'm not on Facebook, not only because I don't want those people trying to lurk around my life, but also because as others say, Facebook is no different than the rest of the world. Jerks are jerks, Facebook or not. I love my life too much for me to open doors to the trash that I left behind try to come mess with me.
  
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  Many Ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses Have Received Texts from Loved Ones Ending Their Relationships Forever

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was a very painful article to read, and i can only imagine that after this years convention - people will be even more emboldened to cut off friends and family.. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/07/03/many-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-have-received-texts-from-loved-ones-ending-their-relationships-forever/?utm_source=silverpopmailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atheist%20071316%20(1)&utm_content=&spmailingid=51830798&spuserid=mty4mdi2oty3odkws0&spjobid=961945281&spreportid=otyxotq1mjgxs0.

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  scratchme1010

  They are definitely changing tactics to more passive aggressive methods. All those messages are like "I love you, eff you".

  What I really hate about them is their attitude. They act as if they are the ones (and the only ones) calling the shots on relationships. They love having the last word and being the ones ending the relationship.