the bible is designed to be understood by those who are humble and willing to learn.
jesus said to his father: “i publicly praise you, father, lord of heaven and earth, because you have carefully hidden these things from wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children.” (luke 10:21) the bible is written in such a way that only those with the right attitude would understand its message.
people with a proud attitude—a common trait of “wise and intellectual ones”—tend to misunderstand the bible.
What would you say to JWs as an answer to the claims in that article?
The same that I say to everything else they claim: useless nonsense.
As for the bible, I agree that the entire concept of having a bible is nonsense too, especially considering when and how it was compiled.
Not only the bible is an old, obsolete and useless book, but there are many people like me who don't need a book to know to be a decent human being.
l know animals do it but their animals.they dont live by a moral code.the thought of 2 men going for it is not normal.what are your thoughts?.
l know animals do it but their animals.They dont live by a moral code.The thought of 2 men going for it is not normal.What are your thoughts?
My thoughts are to go fuck yourself. Stop treating gay people like you are entitled to have a saying about who we are. You don't need to justify your sexuality; I don't have to justify mine. Enough of that shit.
i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
Let's see...
...The vast majority of those who leave the truth do it for one of three reasons:
1). They want to go out and fornicate, or are already fornicating, get caught and leave.
Checked.
2). They have homosexual desires and finally go out and decide to act on those desires.
Double checked - actually, I "acted on my desires" while I was still in (oh, the brothers...) - multiple checked.
3). They've been stumbled and their pride pushes them out."
BS. - Not checked.
Obviously, they are in complete denial about many of the real reasons why people leave.
I remember what I said to a former friend who was a JW and he was also my coworker. He asked me why I wasn't attending meetings anymore. My reply was "because bad associations spoil good habits".
so yeah, i was thinking about this.
marrying an unbeliever is considered to be wrong, but at the same time, it is not a disfellowshipping "offense".
well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by not disfellowshipping.
Well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by NOT disfellowshipping. If they did disfellowship everyone who married "out of the truth", there is a high chance that such ones WON'T be coming back and the org would lose them forever. So why not take the softer approach - make it permissible, with the hope that the believing one can eventually bring their mate AND any children that they may have into "the truth!" This would be an acceptable solution for many single ones (especially sisters) who are not able to find a marriage mate within the org. So while the org considers marrying a "worldly person" to be wrong, they still allow it!
Actually, I think the reasons are even simpler. They can get sued to their wazoos if they disfellowship people who marry whoever they decide to marry and get disfellowshipped for it. Marriage is a legally binding contract too, protected by the state. People in USA obtain over 1100 government benefits, entitlements and legal protections simply by getting married, and people cannot discriminate based on who they decide to marry.
enric hernàndez (@enric_hernandez), director of el periódico (www.periodico.es) has written an editorial this morning.
very interesting !!.
link to editorial in spanish.
Gracias for sharing.
the healings, feeding the five thousand, walking on water, resurrecting the dead.
none of it happened of course but let's take the bible literally and say that it did.. so?.
didn't magic practicing priests perform 'miracles' in a contest with aaron?
How exactly are the miracles supposed to convince us that Jesus is the 'good guy'?
They don't. Both the bible and the WT interpretation of it are full of faulty logic like the ones you point. Not to mention that though it is proven that Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist, there isn't any proof of any of that nonsense that the bible claims he did.
it's doing the rounds but i've not seen it before.. explaining your beliefs about homosexuality.
there are three pages.
here are my thoughts on each question on the pages:.
So you can get an idea of how life is for a born in who's gay, like me.
mock the week is a british improvised, satirical celebrity panel show, like whose line is it anyway?
performers deliver answers on unexpected subjects on the spur of the moment.
i found it quite funny and thought i would pass it along.
LOL!
i was listening to the september broadcasting, where david splain talks about how jacob met with esau.
david splain: how did jacob react?
did he try to show how important and prominent he had become?
Yawn.
i think that's a fair comment.
but i am not convinced by the " god" outside the w.t so far, and i think that's also a fair comment.
if god exists why does he seem a complete liability to convincing the majority of decent people i know to associate with his one true religios organisation?
I think that's a fair comment.
Not to all. I did not join the JWs. I had that organization shove down my throat since the day I was born. That was not something I chose to join. And so is the case of all those born in. We were not "fooled"; we were raised to believe that crap.
As for "god" outside the JWs, personally I can't care less one way or another. I decided that if there's such a wonderful god that loves me and has an important message, he should personally do the leg work and talk to me. That's not too much to ask. No 2000 year old books, no knocking on my door, no sending his son to die for me, no church, none of that --it that has caused more harm to humanity than good.
