Posts by scratchme1010

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Can Today's JW Logically Explain Their Beliefs?

by minimus in

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when i was a jw, i relished explaining my beliefs and why we had the truth!

lol.

todays witness has no clue , in my opinion..

scratchme1010

Can Today's JW Logically Explain Their Beliefs?

They couldn't before, they can't today, the will never be able to in the future.

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I'm starting a Counter-Watchtower magazine

by Counter-Watchtower in

im starting a counter-watchtower magazine for everyone to give to their jw friends and family or just to give to those that come to your door.

the first issue is about the history of pyramidology of c.t.

russel and under the start of rutherford along with some other things like pointing out the fact that no one knows the translators of the nwt or writers of the watchtower, "the two very things relied on to teach you".. its writen in such a way to be very repectful but to make the reader think, and hopefully the light come on.

scratchme1010

There are quite a lot of posts here about the state of the WT. They are in financial trouble, they changed their business model poorly, and they are certainly not making any money from their printed material anymore.

Furthermore, they have kept the same ridiculous business approach that may have worked way back when they started, but for some bizarre reason, insist in maintaining. Examples:

Unlike most-to-all other groups (religious and non-religious), the WT has this ridiculous archaic idea/model of making a lot of money out of people who they themselves discourage from making money. In the past, when in USA people could still make a living from unskilled labor or from some simple trade, that may have worked. Not so today. Yet, they still insist in having their people live with the minimum necessary. That's quite different from what other institutions (some of which even offer scholarships) do. To other institutions, their people are their biggest investment and asset. "It's OK to be a Doctor in my church, especially since I impose you give 10% of your gross income to it"; that's a better model than the ridiculous "Don't study, don't make money and it's ok to contribute when/if you can since Jehovah will provide" model.
When it comes to the WT reputation, it keeps crumbling. Constantly there are not only new lawsuits against the WT, congregations or JWs directly, but people are a lot more aware of the ones that have happened in the past. Lawsuits is only one of the many ways in which their reputation is crumbling. There are now quite a lot of ex-JWs out there, that they just cannot silence. There's no way that they can continue applying mental patches to people, especially those who start listening to them. And now with the ease of communication that technology brings, people can very easily get the full/better story and many sides of things that people and the media say about them, so they can make better informed decisions. Speaking of technology...
They are just horrible at managing technology. Their approach to the Internet alone has proven to be disastrous, again, trying to apply the same nonsense they tried with radio way back when, with TV way back when, with CB radio way back when. Those idiots just don't learn their lesson. If you look at the people who compose the head of that organization, you can see how technology dumb they are, that in combination with them attempting at making every single decision to suit them and their best interest, which seems to be obsessive around controlling the lives of their followers. That's how they end up mismanaging technology and advances.
Another idiotic approach has to do with their insane neglect and mistreatment of children. They do not consider children for anything they do, including the things that they talk about (and how) in their meetings and literature. Just look at their "Book of Bible Stories". Why does that matter? Because children grow traumatized and just leave as soon as they can.

If you notice, I have not mention one single thing that has to do with anything that they teach in terms of doctrine, prophecy, the Bible, nothing. That's why I think that countering what they preach and teach is a waste of time. They themselves are doing quite a good job at looking bad and sinking.

Why not using the time to help people who have been traumatized by them with resources to help them instead?

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-My 9 Part Podcast This JW Life & Something For Tomorrow-

by dubstepped in

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for those that don't know, i recently did a podcast series called this jw life outlining my life before, during, and after the cult.

i made it with outsiders in mind so that anyone could understand what life as one of jehovah's witnesses is like and what it does to people.

i posted about it as each episode came out, but i know that new people will see this and hope that it might help more people as time goes by, so i will post about it every so often to reach out to those that can find help processing their lives or that want to help outsiders to understand what it was like in one cohesive story.. tomorrow i will release episode 2 of my new podcast called “shunned”.

scratchme1010

Thank you. I've been slowly but surely listening to them.

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Does JW Org Have Goons Like Scientology?

by Counter-Watchtower in

i guess this would be a good question to ask.

does jw org have goons they send after ppl to threaten them?

or to inflict violence on?

scratchme1010

Does JW Org Have Goons Like Scientology?

No. They have goons like the JW Org.

Counter-Watchtower, again, you seem to keep trying to use only reasoning and logic to answer the questions that you pose. Look at the bigger picture.

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Can you sue a False Prophet

by maccauk in

its a serious question but we all know that thousands even millions have been misled, brainwashed or deluded into thinking the end of the world is coming by false teachers and prophets.

many people gave up family, careers, time, enjoyment of life etc etc only to be disappointed time and time again.they are responsible for pain, suffering, and manipulation.

this goes to many denominations.

scratchme1010

Many people gave up family, careers, time, enjoyment of life etc etc only to be disappointed time and time again.They are responsible for pain, suffering, and manipulation. This goes to many denominations

...and? They do so voluntarily and legally agree to do so.

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How to delete my account here?

by video in

how to delete my account here?.

scratchme1010

Stupid forum!!!

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meetings 18+ only

by Akid48 in

the title was a joke but i going to tell a story that happend to me a a meeting.. there was a brother giving a talk now from my other post there are like 4 teens and 10 or more kids 5 to 8.now the brother just said now most of you kids will be getting asked have you lost your virginity.now all the teens are 13 like more or a year older you havent had sex but they dont care.. but the young kids most likey just asked there mom and dad when they got home ''mom dad whats my virginity''?.

just my god man what the fuck where you thinking when writeing that..

scratchme1010

"What is masturbation" was the question I kept asking my siblings and parents about after a Sunday meeting when I picked up my very own blue hardcover version of the Young People Ask book.

For some bizarre reason I was asking what is menstruation.

Akid48, if you remember some of your previous posts, I did mention how inappropriate for children those meetings are. Make no mistake, the WT cannot care less about children and their well being. They just don't.

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I'm starting a Counter-Watchtower magazine

by Counter-Watchtower in

im starting a counter-watchtower magazine for everyone to give to their jw friends and family or just to give to those that come to your door.

the first issue is about the history of pyramidology of c.t.

russel and under the start of rutherford along with some other things like pointing out the fact that no one knows the translators of the nwt or writers of the watchtower, "the two very things relied on to teach you".. its writen in such a way to be very repectful but to make the reader think, and hopefully the light come on.

scratchme1010

That idea is a complete waste of time, if you ask me.

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Do JWs wonder why never converted someone that knows the Bible?

by Counter-Watchtower in

my experience with jws that came to my house started me on a journey of learning the truth about "jehovah's organization".

it didnt take long for me to stump them with bible questions that show what jw org teaches is not biblically accurate.

i hope when i lay on them 6 pages of their history (which will later be a counter-watchtower magazine) the light will come on when they read about pyramids and see photos.

scratchme1010

The question is do they ever wonder why they have never converted someone that really knows the Bible? That can quote scripture, that knows when then they use a verse that its out of context? Everytime they come over I leave them stumped with questions, why do they keep coming back? Is it because i came to a Wednesday service one night?

That's not accurate. Not a more common occurrence, but yes, I have known of people who know the bible and even have studied theology in college, and still became JWs.

Aside from what Wake Me Up stated, there are many other things to consider. Some people can go studying and discussing the Bible ad-nauseam, but they do not see the entire picture if they don't look closer to the real reason why people join the JWs, religion in general, or any groups for that matter. Most people don't join to learn something. Some people have been JWs for decades and still to this day can't articulate some of the things that they WT teaches based on their Bible. The reasons why people join have to do with what they feel, what's in it for them, not for learning about some mysterious Bible passage that has a lot of exotic meaning.

You are being too narrow in your assertions and questions. Aside from the Bible, look for reliable research that shed light about the real reasons why people join groups. That may give you a bigger/better picture.

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Help! Jehuba Is Casting Doubts In My Mind!

by sinboi in

remember when we were "in"?

we were told that if we have doubts regarding the bible and regarding the wt, it is satan that is casting doubts in our mind?.

i have been out for 4 months now.

scratchme1010

when I read the newspapers, such as regarding gay marriages, raising kids genetically neutral, it just pop up in my mind that we are living in the last days.

That's your real issue, not the WT nonsense.

Then there is the case of a gay couple suing a bakery for refusing to bake a cake for their wedding. They have the right to be gay. But the bakery shop owner also have his right to refuse to do things that his religious belief forbid. The gay couple should just simply walk away and find another shop willing to make the cake for them...

Who are you to change the law to accommodate for other people trying to shove their so-called morals down other people's throats? What those bakers did was ILLEGAL (look it up, they lost the case), they are not entitled to discriminate. The nonsense that you are stating can go both ways. It's like me saying "They have the right to be bakers. But the gay couple also have their right to demand others to do things that their religious belief forbid. The bakers should just simply close their bakery and find another way of making a living..."

Go back to the congregation. Seems like you are happier there. If the JWs don't do it for you, there are plenty of homophobic, hateful, fear mongering, ignorance promoting churches that will perfectly suit you. Your fear has nothing to do with the JWs, but with your own ignorance. I'd suggest to educate yourself, but you don't seem interested in going that route, so go back to the congregation and act like an ostrich.

Obviously you don't want to accept life and the world for what it really is. Go join some little bubble of the church where you feel entitled to discriminate against anything and everything you don't like hearing about.

Maybe what they were engaging then is much more immoral than our times....

Yeah, keep telling that to yourself.