Pull your head out people.
No pun intended?
wanda nevada (brooke shields) a 13 year old girl and a man 30 some years old (peter fonda) not only expressing their love for each other, but forming a relationship and end up running away together, yes a little creepy.
couldn't sleep last night so around 4 o'clock it was on....the movie made in 1979 what the hell was hollywood thinking when making this movie, a love story romance/westerns......
Pull your head out people.
No pun intended?
i was with my mom today shopping and she is still in the organization.
she is elderly so she doesn't do as much as she used to.
we went to the store and she purchased a calendar and on the way out she said that she finally got a calendar for this year.
Definitely not the same organization as it was at the end of the 20th century.
Yes, but it's their same stupid decision making process, which is not based on innovation. Personally I don't miss anything and can't care less about what they do or change, but I feel for those elderly JWs that are going through so many changes. They have to feel uncomfortable.
we all have likely heard the expression "to break a person" and usually it's in relation to kidnappers, bullies, pimps, human traffickers and cult leaders.. when a person is broken, their spirit, goals, aspirations, pursuits, self esteem, critical thinking and dreams are taken away.
what fills that vacuum is despair, depression, low self esteem, lack of self confidence and individuality.
the victim now believes that they are not worthy of enjoying life and following their dreams and personal satisfaction through personal achievements.
I think that people's experiences are different, and people's reactions are different. I don't feel "broken", but I was traumatized by some things, being a born-in.
I have seen people who have been devastated and have attempted suicide after sessions with the elders. What I think the WT does is nothing about people's mental health, and their practices trigger and precipitate people who have issues that they can't handle.
They are extremely irresponsible when it comes to the well being of their people. They just don't care. Some people end up broken because of it.
my wife was looking through some old diary`s that we have lying around and found a ph.# of an old friend (jw) that we knew over 15 years ago .we were always curious as to what has happened to her as she was a dear friend for many years when we were in the "truth".
so she rings the number (,do you still have the same # that you had 15 yrs ago ?
) and this friend was a bit of a "gypsy" type so she wasn`t expecting much when she rang.. to cut a long story short we all had a good conversation we had been trying to find out about her all these years with no success and she was also trying to find out about us all these years with no success ,we had moved interstate.. nothing was said about religion though i suspect she is still associated with the borg.
My wife and I just had a wonderful experience today.
First thing that came to mind was some impure thought.
Both my wife and I are very happy that this dialogue took place today and look forward to cementing this relationship again.
If she was a little loose when it came to the strict rules of the JWs, it makes sense that she misses you and wants to reconnect. That is wonderful. She's a much better person that he rest of the congregation.
going to be completely honest here, no feelings spared for me.
when i was a jw, one of my biggest motivations for "reaching out" was to become a "somebody".
i loved the idea of being a leader, teaching/training others.
Even after I left, I still had to cope with this delusional part of me that wanted to "show other people what to do" spiritually speaking. It's egotism in disguise! Some still don't even know they're doing it...
Hello, and thank you for sharing your post. I love what you posted. I know that many people join organized religions precisely because they see that as a way of having a position of leadership where they couldn't otherwise have anywhere else.
In my humble opinion, you may be giving a voice to a lot of current and former JWs. I grew up seeing so many men (mostly men) wanting to be "somebody" in the congregation simply to feed their own egos. In different ways many others have shared similar experiences and reasons for becoming JWs. It also explains what we see in some presentations, the pompous attitude and the self-serving behavior.
Once I heard a professional researcher in the matter of cults (high demand, controlling groups) mentioning that playing on people's egos is one of the most common ways in which people fall for those groups.
Also, if you notice, most people who become "born again", the very first display of their "born-again-ness" is precisely that attitude of authority and believing that they are leaders of the world.
each individual may have their own views as to why they feel the meetings are boring and uninspiring.
in my case i find the midweek meeting so, because of the constant emphasis on pitching watchtower literature.
its just monotonous and one big yawn.. i watch other christian faiths where they open up a chapter of the bible and discuss it's contents.
To me was the fact that people were acting like parrots, repeating other people's words over and over.
of course the religion condemns homosexuality but did you know any gay witnesses?
i knew some bethelites that were very effeminate and i remember 4 women who were suspected of being lesbians by many in the congregation.
they eventually moved away and were very vocal against males, especially elders..
Do You Know Any “Gay” Jehovah’s Witnesses?
Yes.
the circuit overseer this week on tuesday gave a talk on loyalty to jehovah.
i listed 5 points.
i only remember 3.. one was the typical association with disfellowshipped relatives, the next was loyalty to friends over jehovah by not reporting wrongdoing to elders.
The men would do things like going golfing and the women would go shopping which isn't good for the couples. Which he is right.
No, it's not. If at all, the amount of JWs who can actually afford a vacation is minimal. When you consider the type of vacation that they would choose, typically visiting the local congregation and winding up preaching with them, I don's think that anyone would even consider going shopping or golfing. Seriously? How many JW golfers do you know? If at all, there are very few. And how many JWs do you know that can have shopping as a hobby (not that shopping as a hobby is a good thing, anyway, but still)? So why are they talking about activities that at best apply to a very, very small group of their people, if at all?
But I was thinking that maybe his motive for discouraging couples vacationing together is to discouraging couples from sharing each other with the other couples and I don't mean men golfing and women shopping. He just wouldn't want to say that there may have been reports of mates sharing each other.
That sounds more like it. This kind of filth is what a lot of Christian religions love spreading. They have to be told that because apparently that's the only thing to do in this planet when you go on vacation. Apparently, to them, vacation has this magical effect that makes you forget that you're a well trained Christian with good values and morals, and chose to live according to certain values and standards of living.
please could someone explain to me what the generation thing i keep seeing in people's threads was that had lots of people leave the wts coz it was way before i became a witness.
Please could someone explain to me what the generation thing I keep seeing in people's threads was that had lots of people leave the wts coz it was way before I became a witness
Read the threads. That's how you get what's all about best. They are quite informative.
greetings, dreamers:.
i guess it's never going away: daytime carryovers of jw-related stuff seeping into my dreams.. the majority of these dreams take place at conventions but with really weird trappings.
last night i dreamed i arrived at the site with no books, no lunch, nothing but my car keys.
No, never. I don't have anything JW related in my dreams.