Posts by scratchme1010

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new and confused

by michaelcabral in

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friends

i am stuck on amos 4:11, jehovah said he will destroy the way god destroyed sodom and gamorah, is this a misprint?.

scratchme1010

I am stuck on Amos 4:11, Jehovah said he will destroy the way God destroyed Sodom and Gamorah, is this a misprint?

Yes. The entire bible is a misprint.

That said, I wonder what your specific concern is. I can't care less about anybody's sexual orientation (other than mine and my husband's), so my concern is more about why that particular piece of information of the bible seems to bother you. Also, if you think about the actual action of the Jehovah in that book, doesn't seem like the action of the same god who claims to be all love.

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Manmade rules

by Jrjw in

i was talking to someone a few years ago and he said in his congregation they have a rail of white shirts prepared in the cloakroom for if a speaker doesn't have a white shirt on.

it was a rule in their hall that all brothers in the platform must wear white shirts when going talks and if the speaker won't comply when asked to change into the shirt they provide an elder in the congregation will do the talk instead.

i have never known any other halls do it so it must be a rule the elders have made up without gb input.

scratchme1010

I have never known any other halls do it so it must be a rule the elders have made up without GB input. Does anyone know of other elder made rules that are unique to their hall?

You brought me back to even before my time. I actually remember when I was just a child, people making comments about the WT having problems with certain colors of shirts. Other than that, maybe that congregation never got the memo.

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Old Light - New Light

by Vanderhoven7 in

terry walstrom posted this exceptional link on another thread.

i think it so amazing that it should have a thread of its own so everyone can have clear and easy access to the document.

terry wrote:.

scratchme1010

Interesting, very useful for those who benefit from following their history.

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Will #metoo have an affect on forcing changing attitudes at Watchtower?

by jwfacts in

despite decades of the feminist movement, watchtower's attitude of woman being inferior has changed little, with pauline sexism justified as inspired, on the basis that women are lesser emotionally, intellectually and physically.

jehovah's witnesses seem to accept this with little resistance.

is there anything about the #metoo movement that may wake followers up?

scratchme1010

Will #metoo have an affect on forcing changing attitudes at Watchtower?

No. At best, they will try to find a way to use it to push their nonsense to people.

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I am getting disfellowshipped

by CitizenofEarth in

maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.

for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.

for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.

scratchme1010

Do you have any suggestions for points i could bring forth under the judicial meeting. I know i will get disfellowshipped, but i wont go silent out, and i plan to record it for my family to hear. If i could bring up some valid points i could make show some willing souls what really goes on in there.

Keep in mind that:

The power that they claim to have is made up. They have absolutely no power and no authority over you.
They are not there to help you; they are not your friends. They are there to solve their problem of having you around. They cannot care less about you.
Think about your own self when you were 100% convinced that you were in the truth, and that there wasn't anyone who could tell you otherwise. Would you have listened to what you'd like to tell them now, then?

That said, I'd also like you to know that different people approach JCs differently, depending on their circumstances and the kind of relationship that they want/have to maintain with their local congregation. Some people don't want to be shunned by loved ones and prefer to play their game because it's in their best interest. Others ignore, others gives them the finger, and others like me, put a show to get a cheap thrill out of seeing them hearing what they want to hear.

It's up to you, please acknowledge your own unique experience and relationship with that organization. I strongly suggest you to consider your own unique situation. As much as they try to convince us that we are sheep, we are in fact, human beings.

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Brotherly love in action..

by Jrjw in

i'm so upset and angry at the same time.

i move in less than 2 weeks and was supposed to be getting help off "brothers" to move and one of them was driving the van and now the elders have had a meeting and told the brothers they can't help coz i'm separated from my (abusive) jw husband and with moving it puts the chances of reconciliation (of which there was zero chance) even further away.

where are these stupid rules that they come up with.

scratchme1010

I'm so sorry. See it as a great opportunity to start looking for real friends, and for people who can provide you with unconditional support. Trust me, a lot of s know pretty well about that shit they put you through.

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Shoud individuals be held responsible for their INACTION?

by nicolaou in

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friends

if you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?.

what defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?

.

scratchme1010

Forget the law for now, I'm going for the morality of the question.
Imagine a hypothetical situation where saving a life requires almost no effort from you and presents you with no personal risk.
If you fail to act should you be held morally responsible for any harm or fatalities?

I don't do "what if" scenarios. They are completely useless.

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They have nowhere else to go!

by Crazyguy in

i think the overwhelming problem with trying to wake up friends and family is they have nowhere else to go.

i mean these people all their friends are jws a lot of them their family is jws.

if they wake up or agree with you in anyway they know instantly that they loose all this, many will even loose jobs.

scratchme1010

Crazy guy, you are absolutely right IN SOME CASES. I was a born in, and it took me a little longer to figure out what would be a safe next step for me to take.

As I have shared many times, the WT not only teaches people how they should behave and be, and what decisions to take, and what/how to think, and not to trust their "independent way of thinking". Part of their brainwashing includes make them believe that if they leave, there's absolutely no other place to be, no people you can trust, and what awaits us is a horrible fate.

Some believe that crap, some find proof of it by perception, and some, like me, see through the nonsense and venture life on their own.

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Were visits to the library an important part of your childhood?

by compound complex in

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friends

greetings, fellow bibliophiles:.

i remember how sad i was, as a little child, when our beloved carnegie library was razed (unsafe, structurally).

the same tragedy occurred when we moved to a new town and that similar architectural treasure was demolished to put up a new and gleaming building of steel and glass.

scratchme1010

In my case was more about lack of access and my parents' lower literacy level, which influenced their decisions around giving us access to additional resources. I was in a mediocre public school system that didn't promote any kind of additional extracurricular activities, and librarians who couldn't be more lazy and careless about actually doing their jobs.

The JW angle was only one of many in my case.

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Shoud individuals be held responsible for their INACTION?

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

if you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?.

what defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?

.

scratchme1010

If you see someone about to be struck by a car or otherwise step into harms way but choose not to call out a warning or act in some way to prevent disaster, are you responsible for any harm caused?

Legally, no, unless I am in a place where I am bound to do that as per their policy, best practices, or legally, such as a hospital.

What defence, if any, can be offered for choosing inaction?

That the person in the accident was Kellyanne Conway.