June watchtower on greeting are they now trying stealthily to change shunning
Maybe.
June watchtower on greeting are they now trying stealthily to change shunning
Maybe.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/careers/employment-trends/2018/03/09/tattoos-ties-out-office-fashion/410081002/.
ties are out.
tats are acceptable.
Will JW change their dictates since acceptable business standards have veered away from dress for success standards of 50s?
No. And even if they do, what would that do anyway?
Who among us has known a jw who has committed suicide. I believe this as a separate subject has not been covered.
Not personally. However, I know of some who have attempted suicide. Also, a friend of mine who is a psychologist has commented that he has seen a few JWs who have been in different stages of the suicide spectrum, from entertaining the idea, to planning, to attempting it.
It is real and a sad reality.
Personally I've never been suicidal. I've been homicidal, though.
hello one and all.. i've been a lurker on here for a few weeks now and i am finally starting to post on some threads.
a lot of the subjects that i wanted to talk about have already been covered so i wont bother restarting a topic that's been done to death.. im a 3rd generation, born-in, jw.
currently faded.
I realized i was a Satanist while a JW. I always felt closer to the character Satan in the bible than any other character. Here is Satan, a character who questions authority, who fights against a tyrannical god who kills at will. That, i think, is a person worthy of imitation. I did not think it healthy or wise to restrict my desires whether they be carnal or anything else. So many JWs are sexually repressed and fighting addictions to pornography, masturbation, fetishes, homosexual desires etc. I found that by indulging in whatever i wanted removed these. I learned that i either didn't like it, or i liked it very much so continued doing it. So i basically lived the life of a satanist while fading from the organization. I would give talks on the platform telling the audience what they'd want to hear, but include subtle hand gestures or words and i even had various tattoos under my cheap suit.
First, welcome to the forum. Interesting story. I myself have thought of Satan the same way, but I personally don't have a lot of space in my life to dwell on it. I also have a hard time believing in Satan as it is too convenient of a character for the Bible and all that Jehovah crap make sense.
Either way, welcome, and thanks for sharing.
many of us here have been "outed" as ones who no longer believe that this is "the truth".. many didn't have the chance to do it in our own way, and in our own time, but rather someone "found out about our apostasy" and "reported" it to the spiritual police (elders).
would you like to share your stories?.
Many of us here have been "outed" as ones who no longer believe that this is "the Truth".
Many didn't have the chance to do it in our own way, and in our own time, but rather someone "found out about our apostasy" and "reported" it to the spiritual police (elders)
Would you like to share your stories?
I wasn't "outed", but many JWs love to have the last word and tarnish people's reputation and just flat out lie and exaggerate. They love to have something juicy to chew at the espense of tarnishing people's reputation, probably since that's all the pleasure in life that they might get.
So more than anybody outing me, I started hearing ridiculous stories, some so laughable that it reinforced my decision to leave those losers.
I was contacted several times by the elders and other people who were just nosy and inappropriate, about things that "they heard". I don't remember them all, but some were about seeing me prostituting myself in some corner late at night, seeing me dressed in women's clothes outside, touching children inappropriately, I allegedly invited several brothers to have sex, that I loved hanging out in men's rooms (yuck!), and those are the ones that I remember.
The fact that they would come to me with that nonsense said a lot about what they are all about, and their lack of spine, especially since the intent of inquiring never looked like well intended.
The "outing" thing is bad. It's one of the most vicious and horrible things that they can do to people, especially those who are questioning their faith and their relationship with them, which may be more reason for them to continue losing numbers.
Though I wasn't outed, even me, a person who has never liked gossip or talking negatively about other people when they aren't present, many times I heard very nasty negative things about people who they considered "spiritually weak" or "cold". Every time I heard something, the very first thought that came to mind was "I'm next", or "who knows what they are saying about me". They certainly loved using all kinds of adjectives and modifiers every time they were talking about the actions (or suspicions) about others.
hi everyone i'm 19 year old and i've been a jehovahs witness for 3 years now.
i've followed the rules and i'm even a pioneer.
but i've hid the secret of a boyfriend i had from india.
Hi everyone I'm 19 year old and I've been a jehovahs witness for 3 years now. I've followed the rules and I'm even a pioneer. But I've hid the secret of a boyfriend I had from india. My parents found out, as well as found some explicit messages and they are going to tell the elders. I'm so scared I don't know what to do. I gave everything to this religion and I'm about to lose it all. I'm so scared.
Sorry you're going through that. You don't give a lot of details, so I won't comment on your particular situation. If you still have faith in your Jehovah, I'm sure that he will let happen what is best for you. If you don't believe in your Jehovah anymore, I'd suggest to start looking for support in places like this.
Best.
the guardian, no less, is asking for stories of abuse at the hands of jws.
they seem to be doing a serious investigation, you can tell your story anonymously, on the record or in any combination to suit you.
this may be the start of a real spotlight on dubdom.
Thanks.Even if nothing happens at the magnitude that some might want, I think that it could be good for some people.
http://jwdoctrine.com/memorial-invitation-2018-demonic-subliminal/.
memorial invitation : subliminal message.
at first glance, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the invitation but on closer look a disturbing detail becomes apparent.it is in the upper right corner of the illustration of jesus christ celebrating the last supper with his disciples in the upper room...there seem to be trees outside the window but on closer inspection, all thanks to the pdf format of the invitation that allows you a very close look down to the fine detail, these are not trees but letters!!!.
What do you think?
Nonsense.
intellectual honesty: "i am willing to be wrong when facts go against cherished beliefs.".
are you willing to be wrong?.
without a willingness to be wrong (who can always be right?
Long read but worth every word. Thank you. My position is this:
How do we Avoid...becoming Intellectually Dishonest?
When honesty is one of my core operating principles, It's never an issue. I hold everyone around me to those standards.
checked out another thread on the jw talk cult site and found this new discussion under the heading makes it awkward...i think: .
hi brothers, hope we are all basking in jehovah's undeserved kindness.
well, anytime im having a bible study in the ministry and we get to d study 6 in the brochure; listen to god and live forever which has d topic : what do we learn from the great flood?
They literally judge people. Have you heard of judicial committees?