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  Watchtower Study Article: "You Fit Enjoy Your Marriage!"

  by Wild_Thing in

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  so, the watchtower study article, "making christian marriage a success" can best be enjoyed when reading it in the language of nigerian pidgin.

  ) e good make love dey make the two of dem think about how the other person dey feel and wetin e need.

  3:7) e no good make dem force each other but make their body first move dem to do am.

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  Who cares what the WT have to say about anything.
  
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  Advanced Warning I - WT August 2016 "Study" articles re "Reaching Out"

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the brief outline for this item makes reference to the most recent wt on the subject of "reaching out" (august 2016 - pages 20 - 29) if you are a jehovah's witness and thinking about becoming a ministerial servant or elder, then please consider the following information prior to attending the kh for this week’s wt “study” and the week after.

  first - if you hope to become an elder, in the uk you will also become a charitable trustee.

  you will not be given any training for this part of your role.

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  Good to know just in case I want to become a ministerial overseer
  
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  JW Carts Cause Thousands to Start Studying!!!

  by Drifting Away in

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  i would love to know the stats of how many hours were spent, standing by a cart, or sitting at a local town fair with jw table tent set up, compared to the number of bible studies started that led to baptism since the inception of the carts.

  anyone have any idea?

  if i had to guess i would say thousands of hours pent standing by a cart, and maybe less then 5 that actually got baptized.

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  The WT know that house to house preaching is no longer something they can talk people into. They know that people in general are aware of who/what they are. They are now making money in real estate.

  What that means is that they can afford the luxury of letting their people slack. They are not depending on hardcore outreach anymore at the same time that they can make preaching less scary to people.
  
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  Which Org 'directives' did you blatantly ignore

  by Tallon in

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  2. beliefs

  i remember that we were always encouraged to let everyone at work know that you were one of jw's and therefore would not participate in any of their functions, parties etc.. this i outrightly refused to do.

  my reasoning was that i was employed and paid to do a job and therefore my religious beliefs were a personal matter and therefore had nothing to do with my work.

  secondly i had to work with these people.

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  @freddo:
  

  You had sex at the memorial???? How did you manage that? Enquiring (aka nosey, not minding their own business,) minds want to know ...

  I prefer to keep the details out, but yes, I did it and it's possible (not encouraging people to do that, though)

  @Giordano

  Scratchme being duplicitous is the only way a fiercely independent person can survive after being dragged into the 'tooth'. All the JW's want is to train young people and adults to live in a world that doesn't exist.
  

  Some born-in people assimilate and become good JWs. I didn't, I couldn't. Trust me, I tried. The one problem I had was that no matter how good of a JW I was, I was always looked at the brother "with that problem", not to mention that so many things never made sense to me. I can't say that i ever had good love or support from anyone in the congregation or my own family. That was another factor.
  

  @HereIgo

  Scratchme you are a savage lol #36 had my crying lol

  I'm actually working on writing my story. I believe there are things I can laugh at now, like that one, but to be honest, it didn't feel that great at the time. Now I celebrate it.
  

  @Landy

  "I vogued to Madonna in the 90s" You disgust me.

  Oh, cut me some slack! It was the 90s, it was a time of confusion We were still getting over the 80s fashion!
  
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  The Org is Growing???? Really???????

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower january 2017 - par.

  15 - "we live in exciting times.

  the earthly part of jehovah’s organization is growing in many ways, but growth necessitates change.".

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  The Searcher, if you look closer at their words, in no way, shape or form they are saying that they are gaining more converts. They clearly say "is growing in many ways", so gaining new people may not be included in the "many ways" in which they are growing.

  They aren't lying because they are growing financially, especially now that they are in the business of real estate.

  Also, consider that they are in fact growing in numbers in undeveloped countries with little or no access to the Internet.
  
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  Why are there still so many of humanity that are immersed onto the lies, ignorance and delusions of religion ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all religions under critical examination has been recognized inherently as formative lies devised to appeal to human emotions and as a means to cultivate power and control for a select propagating few.

  knowledge acquired through scientific inquiry and evaluation has proven that all religious adherence was mostly drawn out human ignorance targeted toward the emotions and consciousness of people.

  here we are in the 21 century and people like the jws are still adhering to the lies of christianity and how this religion developed over time.

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  Here we are in the 21 century and people like the JWS are still adhering to the lies of Christianity and how this religion developed over time. In this situation these people have been mentally manipulated and exploited by men running their religious publishing house even inciting people to sacrifice their own lives toward this dubious work of commercialized fiction.
  

  I think it is a mistake to look at religion purely from a doctrine and belief perspective. A greater factor to consider is the social and psycho-social role that religion plays.

  In other words, very, very few people actually join a religious organization based on what they teach. A good 90% of the people who join don't even know what the religion actually teaches before they join. Hence, using doctrine and what they believe isn't the most important reasons to consider when seeing organized religion from the critical eye.

  Though the words of experts in the matter vary, most-to-all agree that the most common reasons for people to join a religious organizations have absolutely nothing to do with their believes or teachings. The most common reasons why people join religious organization are more about how they feel than about what they want to learn:

  1. Decision point - they want guidance about important life decisions
  2. Dissatisfaction with state of world - they are disappointed about how things are and need to find comfort
  3. Loneliness - they need socialization, a place to belong to, a group of people where they can enjoy the company of others
  4. Loss of loved ones, loss of other types in life (job, tragedy strikes, divorce, etc.)
  5. Ego - they see religious leaders and they want to be them
  6. Relieve doubt - they want a sense of certainty about the future
  7. Spiritual search
  8. The “buzz”, or emotional arousal "Other people are doing it"
  9. Attractiveness of religious leaders
  10. Health reasons - they want hope and comfort or help with a disability
  11. Recovery from substance or behavioral addictions
  12. Escape abusive situations
  13. Find a suitable mate

  If you see those reasons, most of them have little-to-nothing to do with actual doctrine.

  Later on, when they learn what the religion teaches, expert say, that these are the most common reasons why people stay in spite of the faulty logic and strange believes:

  1. They continue to believe in the leader
  2. They are too invested, their entire social life revolves around the religious group and they want to protect their investment
  3. Their family member are still in and they want to hold onto family
  4. Their bonds and relationships can be real and solid
  5. Too proud or too embarrassed to admit that they have been wrong for a long time
  6. Fear of losing their false sense of security; fear of having to face life on their own

  Again, those things have little to do with what a given religion actually teaches. If you ask me, we don't need to look at experts' opinions, just read the post of those who are still in and are struggling and you will see some of the items in the list as their reasons to being still in.
  
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  Front cover of the 2017 Watchtower - unbelievable!

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  study edition.

  january 2017.

  (can someone put up a link please?).

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  Talk about choosing the wrong path!
  
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  JW's Are All About Free Will Now

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from the january 2017 watchtower:.

  first paragraph reads: when faced with making a personal choice, one woman told a friend: “do not make me think; just tell me what to do.

  that is easier.” the woman preferred being told what to do instead of using a precious gift from her creator, the gift of free will.

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  They advocate free will for as long as you do, think and say what they tell you and how they tell you.
  
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  Hypothetical: If WTS Reformed...?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i said in the subject line, this is purely hypothetical.

  what do you think would happen if the wtbts leaders decided to reboot some of the organization's more controversial practices.

  not that they would deny their claims to be jehovah's earthly representatives, nor the key elements of their eschatology; but in administrative outlooks.

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  scratchme1010

  To me is still simple; organized religion is nonsense to me. I respect those who believe in it, and I know the important social function that, properly managed, it can have in society.

  Personally I don't need an organization to tell me to be kind and have decent morals. So to me it doesn't matter if they start doing drag shows to attract people. Organized religion is not necessary in my life.
  

  Also, Cold Steel, remember that we're not talking about a common religion. This is a cult we're talking about. That put things in a different perspective, as every decision they make is not in favor of anyone but themselves.
  
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  Faith healing?

  by Knowsnothing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i haven't been on for quite some time, but i was wondering if you could dispel this for me.

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a5nd2x8erz0.

  there's also video of him in which a woman claims to have been visually impaired and was healed.

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  I agree with the rest; it's just nonsense. There isn't such thing as faith healing.