Muy buen artículo, sp74bb. Me gustó mucho el vídeo que resume la postura de esa organización.
Gracias por compartir el artículo.
scratchme1010
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News article Spain: The parallel justice of the Jehovah's Witnesses (El Pais)
by sp74bb insource: http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2016/11/25/actualidad/1480078910_010669.html?prod=reg&o=cabep&event_log=fa.
(video included, with witnessing of israel flórez lopez, abused as a child).
google translation:.
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I'm not the only one who sees the similarity am I?
by NikL ini've been thinking this for some time.
we all know what this picture is.... .
well, this is dachau concentration camp.... .
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Interesting to see that the actual concept of a Watchtower is outdated today. The reason why they used that concept back then was based on the way we thought at the time. Today it sort of represents, well, what it actually is, imprisonment.
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Are christians allowed to eat blood sausages?
by TheWonderofYou inthis text is an edited google translation by me of a german article by detlef löhde.
the article has also a lutheran aspect in it.
(the bible quotations are taken in english from the nabre, while in the german original the luther-bible is used).
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...since blood is classed in with fornication, there must be something appealing about it.
Maybe it's the sausage part.
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Looks like I am an RV
by lrkr inso it looks like now i'm a return visit.
i don't have it in me to be mean to the j dubs when they drop by so i chat with them.
on thanksgiving morning one of them dropped by (my wife previously asked them to stop coming by).
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Think he'll come back for more??
Yes, definitely. You have to understand that to some JWs, not all, but a rather large amount of them, being polite to them means being interested. Some don't get the no until you actually become "too firm". I know well, I was like that, I would not quit until I was told in a bad manner to stop.
If you get the feeling that the JW who's visiting you can be like that, prepare for the long haul.
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What Is This Thing Called Enlightenment?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini've been doing personal research on this for quite some time.
what do mystical experiences have to do with it.
what is this thing they call liberation?.
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The term enlightenment in the western world has a rather romantic term, normally associated with self-realization (whatever that means to people). It also have a social connotation around being your real self as opposed to always following social norm.
I like some concepts of Buddhism, so the term we translate as enlightenment in Buddhism language exists in that faith. However, there's no accurate translation for the words associated to it, and most importantly, there's not a real specific final definition for what that means. I love what the "quest" (for lack of a better word) to enlightenment in Buddhism mean in terms of the things as human being that you have to be, mostly because all the work comes from the inside out, not from some book with rules or other nonsense.
What I don't believe from Buddhism is the concept of levels and using your enlightenment to prepare for the "next level" in your next life. I've never been fond of the concept of spending this life preparing for the next.
I hope this helps.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-27-2016 WT Study (CHILDREN FAITH)
by blondie inblondie’s highlights from the november 27, 2016 wt study (september 2016) (parents build children faith).
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-september-2016/.
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
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I've been embarrassed so many times!
by stillin ini was kind of proud to go out in field service, most of the time.
important message, straight from god to their doors, right?.
but if you met with the group and didn't have previous arrangements, you could end up with the village idiot for a companion.
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Wow, you just brought some memories. So much to think about in your post!
Since I was born in, I grew up going house to house preaching. I gave my first WT and Awake magazines to a person when I was 4. It wasn't a big deal to me. In fact, as the only activity where I could get out of the house, I actually enjoyed it. Also, that was the only way I was able to know the areas where I grew up.
However, as an adolescent and a young adult, many, many times I was paired up with people who the rest of the congregation didn't like. Those were people who were arrogant and pushy with people.
I learned how to handle them. In fact, I remember this one older guy who people hated going preaching with because he was very talkative and had a mind of his own (you know that in JW land that's a big no-no). At the same time, the people in the group weren't that fond of me either, so they thought that they were going to make me miserable by having me go with that man.
I noticed that the guy had a lot to say about a lot of things, so I let him talk and talk and talk. In fact, I encouraged him to talk more by asking him questions. Turns out he was quite an interesting person with a lot of knowledge about a lot of things. So we had a great time preaching house to house, he did and said whatever he wanted and I had absolutely no problem at all.
When we were done, ready to part ways, in front of everyone he express how delightful he was of going preaching with me and hugged me. Of course, the rest of the group hated me more.
I know well how dreadful it is to deal with everything around house to house preaching. I don't think God is anywhere near those events or people.
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Hard to be completely respectful and the JW attitude
by scratchme1010 inrecently at work they conducted an mbti test for me.
for those who don't know, the mbti test is a personality test used by organizational psychologists in companies and organizations.
it is supposed to describe the best way you communicate, the best way of giving and receiving feedback, and for managers that test is supposed to explain to them the best way to manage their employees (i'm over simplifying, i know).. my profile came up as some kind of introvert (and when i was told that i said "what?
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Luo bou to and Diogenesister, I agree. It's about us normal human beings with feelings, when we place flowers in people's graves. When my mother passed away earlier this year, I made a little memorial collage of pictures and laminated it. I placed it in her grave. My JW family removed it when I left.
They are offensive and hurtful and cocky about it.
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Hard to be completely respectful and the JW attitude
by scratchme1010 inrecently at work they conducted an mbti test for me.
for those who don't know, the mbti test is a personality test used by organizational psychologists in companies and organizations.
it is supposed to describe the best way you communicate, the best way of giving and receiving feedback, and for managers that test is supposed to explain to them the best way to manage their employees (i'm over simplifying, i know).. my profile came up as some kind of introvert (and when i was told that i said "what?
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Recently at work they conducted an MBTI test for me. For those who don't know, the MBTI test is a personality test used by organizational psychologists in companies and organizations. It is supposed to describe the best way you communicate, the best way of giving and receiving feedback, and for managers that test is supposed to explain to them the best way to manage their employees (I'm over simplifying, I know).
My profile came up as some kind of introvert (and when I was told that I said "What? Me, an introvert? No way!"). The profile has these letters that describe your personality from different perspectives, and mine is INTJ. They call that profile "the scientist" or "the architect". Introverted - iNtuitive - Thinking - Judging.
Here's the thing, regardless of how useful or effective the test is, the place where I work goes by it and uses it as a handbook. People in my work group commonly talk about each other using those MBTI terms, and sometimes I hear people saying things like "that's the J in me". I am like, whatever. Honestly I think that those tests are lame attempts at having shortcuts in getting to know and learning how to work with people, or an excuse to explain what otherwise would be chaos and constant conflict. Again, whatever.
Anyway, one thing that I hated when reading in my profile, but unfortunately I believe was on point, is the fact that I seem to thrive or communicate better in a negative way, using negativity, even my humor. According to the profile I'm supposed to use "negative humor" when trying to be humorous. And yes, I hate to admit it, but it's true. Just take a look at most of my post replies and see how negative I tend to be, even when I'm being humorous.
Is negativity negative (what I mean is, does negativity has a negative effect)? Not necessarily, at least in my experience. At work, for example, when we're interviewing candidates for job positions, I love playing "the devil's advocate". The questions I ask and how I frame them help providing a great deal of information about how a candidate can handle him/herself in different situations (BTW, I am the only INTJ in my group). Most importantly, negative doesn't mean untrue, nor does it mean inaccurate, nor dishonest. it only means negative.
When I feel strongly about something, I do love using my negative humor, sarcasm and struggle with people skills (typical traits of the INTJ personality) to make my point. Furthermore, in many conversations I have, and in many instances when somebody claims that I have been offensive to them, I find myself stating "I'm not being offensive; I'm just saying something you don't like hearing. (Depending on the situation, sometimes I add "Grow up!")".
Which is why I am posting this in an ex-JW forum. For some reason, as I was reading my profile, most of the instances in which I could think about when describing situations where my personality profile was evident, had to do with my JW upbringing.
The most notable was this one time when both my JW parents were alive and I went to visit them in the Dominican Republic where they retired. My parents have always been very crass when talking about other people's religious believes, as they feel/felt superior for being in "the truth". They loved mocking people when they saw them doing anything religious that was not according to their "truth".
One of their typical mocking jokes was about people leaving flowers on graves. They would always make stupid comments about the dead not being able to see or smell the flowers. Every time they saw a roadside memorial with crosses and/or flowers, one would tell the other "Look, apparently those pagan idiots expect the dead to go there to smell the flowers! What a waste of time and money", or something like that. Sometimes their choice of words was not exactly nice; it wasn't pleasant hearing them (leave alone growing up hearing them all the time saying that).
One day they did that same disrespectful mocking joke while driving with me in their car. We passed by some roadside memorial and there they were, making some stupid comment. "Look, another idiot expecting the dead to come smell the flowers". Fed up with their cockiness, and also me now being an independent non-JW adult, out of the JW nonsense for decades, I said "Well, I know of people who are worse. I know of idiots who claim that they are going to live 1,000 years".
And that's the best example I could come up with about my INTJ profile accuracy.
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one day convention
by zeb inwell my wife is off to a one day convention and will doubtless return home cranky and tired.
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Cranky and tired? Isn't she supposed to return spiritually fortified or something like that?