Posts by scratchme1010

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Preaching From The Platform While Secretly A Satanist

by Teufel in

hello one and all.. i've been a lurker on here for a few weeks now and i am finally starting to post on some threads.

a lot of the subjects that i wanted to talk about have already been covered so i wont bother restarting a topic that's been done to death.. im a 3rd generation, born-in, jw.

currently faded.

scratchme1010

I realized i was a Satanist while a JW. I always felt closer to the character Satan in the bible than any other character. Here is Satan, a character who questions authority, who fights against a tyrannical god who kills at will. That, i think, is a person worthy of imitation. I did not think it healthy or wise to restrict my desires whether they be carnal or anything else. So many JWs are sexually repressed and fighting addictions to pornography, masturbation, fetishes, homosexual desires etc. I found that by indulging in whatever i wanted removed these. I learned that i either didn't like it, or i liked it very much so continued doing it. So i basically lived the life of a satanist while fading from the organization. I would give talks on the platform telling the audience what they'd want to hear, but include subtle hand gestures or words and i even had various tattoos under my cheap suit.

First, welcome to the forum. Interesting story. I myself have thought of Satan the same way, but I personally don't have a lot of space in my life to dwell on it. I also have a hard time believing in Satan as it is too convenient of a character for the Bible and all that Jehovah crap make sense.

Either way, welcome, and thanks for sharing.

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How were you 'outed' ??

by stuckinarut2 in

many of us here have been "outed" as ones who no longer believe that this is "the truth".. many didn't have the chance to do it in our own way, and in our own time, but rather someone "found out about our apostasy" and "reported" it to the spiritual police (elders).

would you like to share your stories?.

scratchme1010

Many of us here have been "outed" as ones who no longer believe that this is "the Truth".
Many didn't have the chance to do it in our own way, and in our own time, but rather someone "found out about our apostasy" and "reported" it to the spiritual police (elders)
Would you like to share your stories?

I wasn't "outed", but many JWs love to have the last word and tarnish people's reputation and just flat out lie and exaggerate. They love to have something juicy to chew at the espense of tarnishing people's reputation, probably since that's all the pleasure in life that they might get.

So more than anybody outing me, I started hearing ridiculous stories, some so laughable that it reinforced my decision to leave those losers.

I was contacted several times by the elders and other people who were just nosy and inappropriate, about things that "they heard". I don't remember them all, but some were about seeing me prostituting myself in some corner late at night, seeing me dressed in women's clothes outside, touching children inappropriately, I allegedly invited several brothers to have sex, that I loved hanging out in men's rooms (yuck!), and those are the ones that I remember.

The fact that they would come to me with that nonsense said a lot about what they are all about, and their lack of spine, especially since the intent of inquiring never looked like well intended.

The "outing" thing is bad. It's one of the most vicious and horrible things that they can do to people, especially those who are questioning their faith and their relationship with them, which may be more reason for them to continue losing numbers.

Though I wasn't outed, even me, a person who has never liked gossip or talking negatively about other people when they aren't present, many times I heard very nasty negative things about people who they considered "spiritually weak" or "cold". Every time I heard something, the very first thought that came to mind was "I'm next", or "who knows what they are saying about me". They certainly loved using all kinds of adjectives and modifiers every time they were talking about the actions (or suspicions) about others.

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I'm getting disfellowshipped

by Letty in

hi everyone i'm 19 year old and i've been a jehovahs witness for 3 years now.

i've followed the rules and i'm even a pioneer.

but i've hid the secret of a boyfriend i had from india.

scratchme1010

Hi everyone I'm 19 year old and I've been a jehovahs witness for 3 years now. I've followed the rules and I'm even a pioneer. But I've hid the secret of a boyfriend I had from india. My parents found out, as well as found some explicit messages and they are going to tell the elders. I'm so scared I don't know what to do. I gave everything to this religion and I'm about to lose it all. I'm so scared.

Sorry you're going through that. You don't give a lot of details, so I won't comment on your particular situation. If you still have faith in your Jehovah, I'm sure that he will let happen what is best for you. If you don't believe in your Jehovah anymore, I'd suggest to start looking for support in places like this.

Best.

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UK Newspaper Investigation, Your Stories Requested

by Slidin Fast in

the guardian, no less, is asking for stories of abuse at the hands of jws.

they seem to be doing a serious investigation, you can tell your story anonymously, on the record or in any combination to suit you.

this may be the start of a real spotlight on dubdom.

scratchme1010

Thanks.Even if nothing happens at the magnitude that some might want, I think that it could be good for some people.

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Memorial Invitation 2018 : Subliminal Message ?

by jwdoctrine in

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http://jwdoctrine.com/memorial-invitation-2018-demonic-subliminal/.

memorial invitation : subliminal message.

at first glance, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the invitation but on closer look a disturbing detail becomes apparent.it is in the upper right corner of the illustration of jesus christ celebrating the last supper with his disciples in the upper room...there seem to be trees outside the window but on closer inspection, all thanks to the pdf format of the invitation that allows you a very close look down to the fine detail, these are not trees but letters!!!.

scratchme1010

What do you think?

Nonsense.

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How do we Avoid...becoming Intellectually Dishonest?

by TerryWalstrom in

intellectual honesty: "i am willing to be wrong when facts go against cherished beliefs.".

are you willing to be wrong?.

without a willingness to be wrong (who can always be right?

scratchme1010

Long read but worth every word. Thank you. My position is this:

How do we Avoid...becoming Intellectually Dishonest?

When honesty is one of my core operating principles, It's never an issue. I hold everyone around me to those standards.

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Who Says JW's Are Not A Judgemental Cult

by FedUpJW in

checked out another thread on the jw talk cult site and found this new discussion under the heading makes it awkward...i think: .

hi brothers, hope we are all basking in jehovah's undeserved kindness.

well, anytime im having a bible study in the ministry and we get to d study 6 in the brochure; listen to god and live forever which has d topic : what do we learn from the great flood?

scratchme1010

They literally judge people. Have you heard of judicial committees?

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A Field Service that gave a shock to the CO

by Ireneus in

during one co visit to our congregation, i was asked to work with co as i was a new publisher.

after some ordinary visits, we entered a house where there was only a lady who proved be well-educated.

though it was my turn, i told co to present the good news.

scratchme1010

After coming out of that house CO was not in a mood to continue with the FS, so he said: ‘We will have some refreshment.’ While enjoying our Halo Top; I was telling myself ‘house-holder was more than refreshing to me than this ice-cream as her response sowed in me a seed of doubt which later grew into a big tree that cannot be uprooted.

He has to feel very defeated. Not only he was proven wrong, but JWs are supposed to look up to them.

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Am I losing my mind or am I being stalked?

by Michigan22 in

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hi everyone, this is my first post.

i studied the bible weekly with a wonderful jw.

i suddenly stopped because things just seemed to be getting stranger.

scratchme1010

Now that I have stopped responding to texts, calls I feel almost stalked. Today, a random car sat at the end of my driveway for well over 15 minutes with a lady looking at me. I came to my door, she waved, and then made a call and drove off. Maybe I am paranoid, but it seemed to get very cultish. Is this a common experience?

I really hope not. As far as I know, JWs are not trained to obsess about gaining converts that way, please read that last part, that way. Do you have any reason to believe that the "stalking crazy woman in the car" was a JW?

Stalking is a serious matter, so I hope it's not that they decided to do that on their own (which is possible), but it is not a directive from the WT organization.

Either way, don't entertain any unwanted attention.

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This probably sounds uppity. I'm saying it anyhow

by stillin in

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has anybody else noticed a pattern that is here among us outcasts?

there seems to be, on average, a higher level of intelligence here than there is at the kingdom hall.

actually, intelligent conversation seems to be looked down upon among the witnesses.. also, the simple language skills found here seem to be above average compared to those among the witnesses.

scratchme1010

There seems to be, on average, a higher level of intelligence here than there is at the Kingdom Hall.

I respectfully disagree, 100%. Intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with brainwashing. There are many JWs who are very intelligent.

I've said this many times, and I will say it again. One thing is what a person knows and their capacity to think, and a different one is what the person feels.

There's this constant insistence in this forum on looking at the JW experience as an intellectual one. The WT has done quite a number on people, that is, if no one notices or refuses to talk about the real things behind skills and knowledge. It's not about intelligence, its not about learning, it's not about analyzing information.