It'd be great if someone could use these housing buildings as like halfway homes for homeless or runaways, someplace to help people get back on their feet. Could also make a decent elderly center or coop.
Jidders
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More Watchtower Property For Sale!
by Atlantis inif this is old news then just scrap it.. .
looks like more watchtower property is for sale.. .
https://www.matele.be/bioul-le-centre-des-temoins-de-jehovah-a-vendre.
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They don’t even know that they have become Scribes & Pharisees
by Muddy Waters in“father, forgive them, for they know naught what they do...”.
- said jesus as they were killing him.. “... and the man who comes to kill you will imagine he is doing it as a deed to god.”.
”oh, father, i thank you that i am not like these sinners, these unrighteousness, lowly, and ungodly people.” .
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Jidders
Definitely feels they've come to be like the Catholic Church that they love to demonize. Ironic that they also condem many groups of Christianity on grounds that they hide the Bible truth and prevent their followers from studying but then in the guise of study aids they basically use the Bible as a reference book for their own literature.
Something Ive been musing lately is how in the talks of the false prophets from the OT and NT that they would disown their of prophets, which until recently seems to be what happened to Russel and even now the truth about his life has been scrubbed so hard that you wouldn't know he belonged to a very similar group of doomsday Christians before.
Evey time I have a second thoughts that maybe I should start studying with the witnesses again I get reminded how corrupt the head is and how general their use of the endtimes can be that it feels like you can reverse it and apply it to their own organization's current state
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New Upcoming Changes - No More Publisher Record Cards & Reporting Hours
by thedepressedsoul inpublisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away.
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coming soon.. made this post 4 years ago, it happened - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/24020002/kingdom-consolidation-sales-coming-reliable-source.
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Jidders
Full tinfoil hat time:
If op is right they're most likely switching to digital through the use of a preaching app allowing the recording of time, visits and note keeping as a great provision in ministerial crusade. This app will either connect to the KH's master server which reports back to hq or just simply sends info directly to the hq (much like how sir82 mentioned). Possibly allows for more nebulous numbers and reports during conventions as the reporting numbers could be falsified easier or just mushed together into a generic reporting overview.
It would allow ez record destruction too since all they'd need to do is shoot out an update the wipes notes with a little patch disclaimer saying that the change to a new version unfortunately couldn't carry over previous information or something. While that would be terrible for keeping information it certainly gives more immediate control, which if the GB is as inscincere as many make them out to be, that would be the main draw. Hell even going as so far as making a lite publication app and instead of full literature carts they only carry a small amount and go full digital, encouraging people to download the publication app that gives easy access to the latest news, awakes and those Caleb and Sofia videos those kids crave!
I know there's an existing app but adding one that is for casual masses rather than the full resource with an even more spoon feeding interface makes a disturbing amount of sense to me. Afterall they do have their online personal study thing which is so pared down that anyone can follow along.
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Jidders
I had been taught that this account was more from the perspective of Moses (Noah? I can't remember who wrote genesis unfortunately) having a vision of all this and that, taken nonliterally, this was more indicative of the clouds blocking the sun out being cast away and naming the day and night cycle for the existing Sun and Moon etc. Still, the more they fit science into the narrative the more it brings into question the process of evolution, because honestly breaking it down this way made the notion of evolutionary biology more viable but I was sorta stiffled about it.
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I'd like to see something like this
by frozen2018 ina dragon aurora over iceland.
i've seen auroras, both northern and southern, but nothing like this.. .
while not nearly as spectacular as a dragon aurora, if you think of it take a look at the super snow moon tonight.
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Jidders
Maybe one of the ancient people saw that and thought that was the dragon god was casting down :P It certainly would freak my mind to see that after a few weeks of fasting.
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Watchtower Trolleys With Added Bling
by cofty inmy wife and i were in edinburgh on saturday (did a ghost tour) and around dusk we passed two trolleys on the high street — aka 'the royal mile' — that both had two rows of led lights under the little shelves.
has anybody else seen this or is it a local innovation?
i'm happy to report their pimped-up trolleys were attracting no attention as usual.
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Jidders
I always get a weird mix of admiration and pity about this sort of thing. On the one hand it definitely probably gives the cart users a sense of cutting edge, usefulness and maybe a bit of feeling of uniqueness to those pimi much like how the jw.oorg pins probably give a side helping of pride/patriotism that they may feel lacking. That said the pity comes out when thinking of individuals that have to scrape together these elements from something like that rather than something of their own hands or mind.
Honestly I still have family pimi and are doing well for themselves and enjoying a fairly educated and diverse lifestyle while still preaching so I probably get those feelings of admiration from the people I know that are preaching/living better than the GB teach to do. Probably a rare thing but I'm not really someone who was in either like a lot of you guys were.
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Is this how you saw your Armageddon? I sure did :(
by Diogenesister ini think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.
after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!
you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.
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Jidders
Honestly I never really thought too much on the destruction part and just had thoughts on paradise. Honestly I figured it be angels destroying the armies of the governments and Satan while everyone else watched on. I find it strange that if the faithful are to be protected during the final hour that go bags, shelters and everything are even necessary. I figured the faithful would get the same protection as the apostles in the Lions pit illustrations the WT published: buff angels guarding the meek etc.
On a positive note one of my few dreams that I had of paradise that I can remember was going to what was an abandoned/repurposed shopping mall that was being used as like a community center, people trading goods, playing music, seeing my family members meeting up all that fluffy stuff, and I met this nice Indian girl and her pet tiger (stereotypical subconscious eh?) She was cool.
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Life as a Perfect Human in the New System of Things
by RubaDub ini have always wondered how basic things that we do to ourselves will be handled as "perfect" human beings.. i recall someone here had a quote from an old wt that said that if we fall off a roof or something that there will be some "force" to soften the fall and we will not be injured.. but, as a perfect human, if we travel to mexico and drink water from the tap, will we get the squirts, flying shits, montezuma's revenge, or whatever you wish to call it?
maybe we will be protected as perfect human beings and have colons that also are perfect.
but who knows.. just pondering these common things that we take for granted.. rub a dub.
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Jidders
Honestly I would still love to live forever with youth and good health so long as I got to keep some other people around me who consent to the notion as well, though as I get older my view on that would change, but I feel like I dont have enough time for all the things I want to learn and do now and I'm only 28. I'm a fairly slow and lazy person as it is so time flies when I dont want it to.
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Life as a Perfect Human in the New System of Things
by RubaDub ini have always wondered how basic things that we do to ourselves will be handled as "perfect" human beings.. i recall someone here had a quote from an old wt that said that if we fall off a roof or something that there will be some "force" to soften the fall and we will not be injured.. but, as a perfect human, if we travel to mexico and drink water from the tap, will we get the squirts, flying shits, montezuma's revenge, or whatever you wish to call it?
maybe we will be protected as perfect human beings and have colons that also are perfect.
but who knows.. just pondering these common things that we take for granted.. rub a dub.
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Jidders
I always figured that "perfect" human status would remove illness, disease, cancer and aging. As for pain of injury and such I figured we could still end up hurting ourselves though accident but healing and pain would be quick and short, as I feel that no pain would essentially mean we lose half of our senses and our ability to contrast pleasure and pain, leading to dulled senses overall. Afterall Jesus was able to be killed as a perfect human and the wording about the fruit is "you positively will die", possibly meaning even Adam and Eve could possibly die but possibly not as a permanent status.
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"Do not make for yourself an image of God ..."
by stuckinarut2 ina thought struck me regarding the biblical directive found in a few places including exodus 20:4.
"do not make a likeness of god in the form of any creature that is on the earth or heavens ".
it would seem disrespectful to use "dirty" creatures to describe perfect beings?.
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Jidders
I think it's less contradictory and more of one was a law to not make new Gods/represent God through a craft image or a mortal creature whereas the appearance of angels and heavenly beings is comprehension of what goes beyond mortal existence. Afterall YHWH didn't even want stones to be carved to make his altars, just use natrual stone, to prevent the possibility of it and to keep the natrual purity of the stone, I imagine it goes. Then again the copper altar also had horns like the bull and angels typically took on animal appearances like the Lions head in the wheels, but again this could be interpretive writing.