Posts by TheOldHippie

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Some Interesting Numbers to Compare With 20,000 Baptisms Each Month
by LostGeneration in
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2. friends
blondie's comments on the wt this last sunday brought this to my attention.

the b0rg brags that 20,000 get dunked each month.

compare that to the following numbers from this site: http://www.wholesomewords.org/missions/greatc.html#birdatrate.
TheOldHippie

"By the way, the death rate for witnesses is grossly exagerated. The people dying of old age now on average were born in 1944. To calculate a proper death percentage for witnesses, you would need to consider what percentage of the population JW's were in 1944, a much, much smaller number."
Quite simply totally utterly wrong! The death rate of around 1 % is calculated based on the present population (or size of the group you are considering) and is the added sum of the death expectancy for each age (0 years of age + 1 year of age + 2 years of age ... etc.) which amounts to approx. 1 %. If the JW death rate is any different from 1 %, my guess is that it would be slightly higher, because of the high death rate in Africa and Latin America.
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Ok Watchtower: will you be sending a DO to the funerals in Nigeria?
by Aussie Oz in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
obviously you 'cared' about whitney's death, a horrible tragedy, enough to rally the troops and send a district overseer no less, to give the funeral talk.. do you care enough about the 20 poor jw's that died in that tragic truck cum bus accident in nigeria?

who will you be sending to the funerals?

what demonstration of the great brotherly love will you do for them?.
TheOldHippie

Perhaps a terrible tragedy like this is not the ideal topic for neither bad jokes nor easy critisism? Many children have lost their parents, many parents have lost their children, families have been wiped out - they should not be the object of sarcasm.
TOH
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Annual meeting. Greek scholars please help!
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
below is a statement from gb member gerrit losch.

notice what is said about the fds.

is this true?
TheOldHippie

1. There are quite a few amateurs here, partly stating themselves that they have only a very vague insight into the NT Greek - but that does not seem to stop them from having very clear opinions as to why the statement of Loesch simply HAS to be wrong.
2. Perhaps - just perhaps - it would be better to wait until we can see the whole argument as part of a WT article within a couple of months, and not just as an incomplete sentence within very short and scanty minutes?
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JW ORG duplicity? : Baptismal question.
by Splash in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
on jw.org there's a section which asks the rhetorical question "are you christians?"..

( http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/are-jehovahs-witnesses-christians/ ).

it has a number of points to explain why jw's are christians, and the third point reads:.
TheOldHippie

I think you are mixing up the baptism and the response you give after the baptismal talk. When you are baptised shortly afterwards, immersed in water, it is in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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January 2013 Watchtower. Interesting comment re 6000 years
by alanv in
1. watchtower
2. bible
just had a quick read through the new 16 page edition of the watchtower, and noticed an article about able who was adam's son.

the article said in part.

abel speaks to you today.
TheOldHippie

The rapidity of it all after the Flood really is the problem, Phizzy. Life's distribution after the Flood. Mankind's growth after the Flood, so that already 200 years later nations and cities are mentioned.
If saying the Flood was devastatingly huge, enormous, never seen anything like it, massive results all over the world - but not covering all of the Earth, the problem would be solved.
Millions of years prior to Adam doesn't matter, as long as it all narrowed down to a handfull of people and animals 4,200 years ago.
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January 2013 Watchtower. Interesting comment re 6000 years
by alanv in
1. watchtower
2. bible
just had a quick read through the new 16 page edition of the watchtower, and noticed an article about able who was adam's son.

the article said in part.

abel speaks to you today.
TheOldHippie

Quite a few years ago there was a question not about Neanderthals but about other human-like fossils, and the comment was that if these were human, then they belonged to a branch of the human family that since then has disappeared. I guess the Neandethals would be regarded much the same way, they were human, people, but of a branch or race that has disappeared. Search a bit in the WTLibrary and you will find the quote.
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Has the rescent change in the identity of the FDS been released in print yet
by A.M. Number 1 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just wondering what wt issue has actually put it down in print.

i know that some of my jw frineds already know about it, but they didn't tell me if it was an announcement at the hall or actually in the wt..
TheOldHippie

Since the only literature in which it will appear, will be the study issue of the Watchtower, and since the January 2013 issue is now available and the change is not mentioned there, the earliest possibility will be the February issue, and the articles therefore studied in late Spring. Since the writing and preparation period for articles is rather long (the 2011 annual meeting was covered close to a year after it took place), then either it will not appear in a amgazine till next Summer, or the change has been prepared for months ahead of the talks, and therefore the February issue could cover it.
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Notes from Safeguard Your Mind assembly - day 1
by raxxxx in
1. watchtower
2. bible
it was an entertaining and incredibly sad experience... anyway!

here are some notes i have managed to take in between all of the crying and laughing as well as occasional mental breakdown.

enjoy!
TheOldHippie

Having a bad day, WTWizard?
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A cautionary tale... the extremely beautiful sister and the worldly guy at the office
by cedars in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-flmy8ltada.

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cedars.
TheOldHippie

The VampireA fool there was and he made his prayer
(Even as you and I!)
To a rag and a bone and a hank of hair
(We called her the woman who did not care)
But the fool he called her his lady fair
(Even as you and I!)
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A cautionary tale... the extremely beautiful sister and the worldly guy at the office
by cedars in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-flmy8ltada.

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cedars.
TheOldHippie

"a hank of hair and a piece of bone" ...that is what he thought of women"
Actually, it was Kipling who said that, and Rutherford was merely quoting him .....................