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  Bachelor's Degree

  by mamamo in

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  i finally graduated with my bachelor's degree last saturday.

  i really wish i hadn't taken as long as i did.

  my high school graduation was 30 years ago.

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  TheOldHippie

  I got mine 35 years ago.
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  commentary on the letter of james

  by sosoconfused in

  1. watchtower
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  does anyone know where i can find an electronic copy of this publication.

  i have a small project i am working on and it would be very helpful.

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  TheOldHippie

  And the instruction on discarding older literature also stated that at first the literature should be made available on the counter desk so that each publisher could have the chance of getting the piece for him/herself, and after that the remaining stock should be discarded.
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  Cleveland kidnapper's mom is a JW

  by just Ron in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/castro-brothers-spend-night-jail-article-1.1338131.

  down near the bottom of this article, a neighbor of ariel castro's mother reveals that dear old mom is a dub.

  bet this won't become a part on a assembly..

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  TheOldHippie

  I wonder if there ever was a rapist or murderer in the US whose mother was a Catholic?
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  leopold engleitner oldest concentration camp survivor dead at 107

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57582540/leopold-engleitner-oldest-concentration-camp-survivor-dead-at-107/ .

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  TheOldHippie

  By the way, to clarify, he was the oldest survivor of the the concentration camps Buchenwald, Niederhagen and Ravensbrueck. No matter what faith.
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  leopold engleitner oldest concentration camp survivor dead at 107

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57582540/leopold-engleitner-oldest-concentration-camp-survivor-dead-at-107/ .

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  TheOldHippie

  That is a very wrong and insulting statement, Band on the run. The reality in their situation was much more complicated, and you should read Garbe or other historians who have considered this. In the pre-war years and even early war years up until the war laws were approved, they were not treated too badly by the ordinary judicial authorities, but as soon as they had finished their prison term, they were met by the Gestapo and sent to the consentration camps where they were treated horribly and suffered exactly the same hardships as other groups of prisoners. It was good for them if they managed to receive long prison sentences in the ordinary prisons, as that sort of protected them from ending up at the camps. But from 1942-43 onwards a change took place, Himmler acknowledged that they were harmless and he started having phantacies about them being used after the war as a sort of buffer zone towards Russia, they could be sent to populate Ukraine and pacify the people living there etc., and so they were treated better, could be given work in the Nazi leaders' households, be used to build cottages and houses for them etc. As labourers in such outward commandoes they received better food and fared relatively seen better. At the same time, because of the war laws the ordinary judicial system started to treat the JWs worse, death sentences for preaching, refusing military service etc. So in these couple final years of the wars, it was a refuge, a help, for the JWs to be sent to the camps, now things changed so that the camps were a safer place. So from 1933 and 10 years onwards, it was better for them to be judged by the ordinary judicial system, as the camps were a place they were treated terribly, but during the last couple of years it was better for them to be in camps because there were treated slightly better than other prisoners whereas in the ordinary judicial system they were particularly targeted for execution and torture.

  No matter what one thinks of the JW belief system, the sufferings they endured during the Nazi regime should be honoured. And individuals like Engletner, who toured Europe and the USA until he was 105, should be held in high esteem. Books are written about him, "No in stead of Yes and Amen" and "100 years of Unbroken Will". For some 40 years after the war ended, he was ridiculed in his home country Austria and in the area he lived, because he had been a consentration camp prisoner, as people thought that prople who had been there must have been criminals. People in Austria and Germany until recently were not taught about the Nazi crimes at school, it has been silenced, and people like Engleitner suffered first during the war and then for decades after the war. It was not until around 1990 that Engleitner was honoured as he should have been all the time, he was awarded medals, he got to meet the Chancellors of Austria and Germany etc. For 45 years after the war and until then he had lived as a poor man, sick from the evils he had received during the war and the illness and death of his wife, getting little work, just occational road or construction or farm work, ridiculed because of his poverty, because of his inprisonment during the war and because he was a JW.

  Hats off to the memory of Engleitner and thousands like him. It is so easy to sit here 70 years later and say that they really did not meet any hardships, that they in fact were no heroes etc. - so easy to "know it all" 70 years later. No, shame on such thoughts. Engleitner really was a man, really was a humble hero, zero education but with a peasant-like wit that silenced Gestapo wardens and made even them like this strange, small guy who spoke with a dialect that was almost not understandable.

  I have read the books about the guy. I have watched the DVDs about the guy. And I tell you, I love the guy.
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  "Further clarification..."

  by Dagney in

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  2. bible

  a few minutes ago, a jw, (elder's wife who for some reason still calls me 1-2 times a day to tell me about her new purse/dr's appt/what she's making for dinner/etc.

  ) called to tell me she saw sherri sheppard on tv talking about her new diet book.

  i say, "you know she was raised a jw.

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  TheOldHippie

  Yes, it is going up rapidly towards 144,000, and once that is reached, big A takes place.
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  Elders raid a SDA church!

  by ozziepost in

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  2. friends

  is it true what we're hearing?

  it's been reported to us that two elders burst in to a sda church service about a month ago seeking to trap a witness man there.

  the man, a witness for 14 years, had become disillusioned with the affairs of the wts in australia after viewing the "sunday" program on channel nine which exposed the cover-up of paedophilia in the witness movement.

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  TheOldHippie

  "But they're tactics are virtually indisstinguishable from the Gestapo."

  Ah! There it came! Godwin's Law, although the statement came a bit too soon in my opinion. But let us refresh our memory and remiond ourselves of Godwin's Law: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches." In other words, Godwin said that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis.
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  Why Does The Watchtower Dis-fellowshiping For Smoking and Not Gluttony and Alcoholism?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  health care studies are showing obese body weight index is worse than smoking "death sticks", so how is the tower going to address their growing problem of overweight elders and elderettes?

  if a organization is able to disfellowship a member for smoking, why not do the same with other vices and crutches their people use to hide stress, emotional disorders and depression?

  employers are asking for a bmi test a their potential employees to create a diet to get healthy.

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  TheOldHippie

  Sorry. Three.
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  Why Does The Watchtower Dis-fellowshiping For Smoking and Not Gluttony and Alcoholism?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  health care studies are showing obese body weight index is worse than smoking "death sticks", so how is the tower going to address their growing problem of overweight elders and elderettes?

  if a organization is able to disfellowship a member for smoking, why not do the same with other vices and crutches their people use to hide stress, emotional disorders and depression?

  employers are asking for a bmi test a their potential employees to create a diet to get healthy.

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  TheOldHippie

  I have been on two committes where we have df'ed for drinking.
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  I heard Jehovah's Witnesses were the first ones on the scene in Boston providing assistance.

  by Theocratic Sedition in

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  you know those articles from the wt are coming, along with emails from jw friends and family.

  all the shameless self-attaboys, and fictitious observations by non-jws remarking on how jws provided the most and best assistance to the victims..

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  TheOldHippie

  So are the Williams sisters ........................