What I WILL give you, is to accept and acknowledge that among the elders and servants there is frequently an astonishing absense of "spiritualness/spirituality" in discussions, everyday talk, evening dinners etc. Far too many seem to dwell with liquour prices, soccer games, new car prices, computer sizes etc., and the more spiritual types of conversations can be had with new ones, those not being servants etc., and this supports the "business" or "corporation" or "organization" image. I think that happens in many organizations dealing with religion, environmental issues, many types, that the organization-outlook takes over and one forgets what were the roots. In stead, one looks at the organization and how big it is, how smooth it operates etc., as if that were proof final that it is God's channel. What is it were forbidden tomorrow and the buildings etc. closed, as happened in France? The percentage drop shows many could not cope with that, many could not stand persecution, ridicule and the disappearance of organizational buildings etc. What if the airplanes had hit Brooklyn Heights in stead? What would have been shattered?
TheOldHippie
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SPIRITUAL INCOMPETENCE
by Victor_E inthe founders of america were great men and women who fled religious intolerance from the motherlands to give birth to a new nation where religious freedom would be guaranteed by law.
these laws have become a safe heaven for cults and all kinds of religious scams who hide behind the laws that make churches immune from prosecution.
russell and company found that the laws of the land allowed him to set up his religion to be able to market his pyramidology beliefs through literature sales.
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SPIRITUAL INCOMPETENCE
by Victor_E inthe founders of america were great men and women who fled religious intolerance from the motherlands to give birth to a new nation where religious freedom would be guaranteed by law.
these laws have become a safe heaven for cults and all kinds of religious scams who hide behind the laws that make churches immune from prosecution.
russell and company found that the laws of the land allowed him to set up his religion to be able to market his pyramidology beliefs through literature sales.
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TheOldHippie
Quite so, Gopher, but it seems there is only ONE organization (guess which .....) which is REALLY BAD all thru, and which more or less is to blame for all evil which is to be found on Earth. So I just tried to say that perhaps there is "evil" behind polished surfaces elsewhere - eh!, well - "too". If it is an example to hold in such a high esteem, (and one here critisizes (sure the spelling is wrong!) the WBTS for not handing out soup like the SA does) to hand out soup (no offense intended), then perhaps the example is not so very good after all, when in fact the soup-givers threaten everybody except themselves with eternal flames .......
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Milton Henschel and the UN helicopter trip
by bj insome weeks ago, someone on this board alleged that milton henschel took profit of the un by using their helicopter.
as you can imagine this is a serious accusation which need to be founded on proof.
therefore, i would like to know what are your sources?
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TheOldHippie
What accusation is that? If he as head of a worldwide organization was transported from point A to point B by a UN helicopter, that is no accusation - that is an ordinary means of transportation, and nothing to have to excuse?
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SPIRITUAL INCOMPETENCE
by Victor_E inthe founders of america were great men and women who fled religious intolerance from the motherlands to give birth to a new nation where religious freedom would be guaranteed by law.
these laws have become a safe heaven for cults and all kinds of religious scams who hide behind the laws that make churches immune from prosecution.
russell and company found that the laws of the land allowed him to set up his religion to be able to market his pyramidology beliefs through literature sales.
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TheOldHippie
I just wonder a bit when people write about how extremely good for example the Salvation Army is, because it does so much for the benefit of the alcoholics and drug addicts and homeless and poor etc. (and they DO, I am not at all trying to negate that!), but I remember some 30 years ago, when I was (also) young, I went to quite a few of their meetings, and their teachings, what were they about? Much about hell and damnation and burning sulphur and brimestone. Eternal flames for those who did not accept their message. So behind the very good deeds and the singing and the uniforms and the meek appearances was hell and damnation to the world.
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WTS TO END MAILED SUBSCRIPTIONS
by Seeker4 injust heard that the society is going to stop mailed subscriptions.
magazines will all have to be picked up at the kingdom hall.
not sure when it's starting, but soon, i suppose.. sorry if this has been posted before, but i think this is very new info.
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TheOldHippie
It seems this is something new to you US people, but in the rest of the world, magazines have only been distributed thru the congregations and not thru the mail for 4-5 years.
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How to wash your dishes properly
by spacegirl ini remembered the other day reading in an awake, oh it must have been about five or six years ago, an article on how to wash your dishes properly.
for god's sake, do jw's not know how to do that and do the borg think they have to tell them how to do it.
it's cracking me up just thinking about it.. to make you laugh even more, in the next issue of awake someone had written a bloody letter thanking them for the article and how it had helped them so much and had a query on whether to rinse dishes with water or not after washing.
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TheOldHippie
But perhaps it is a bit too easy for you oh! so full of insight - being fat Americans to make fun of people from Africa, South America and South East Asia, to whom these points are not so self-explanatory as they are to you, oh mighty ones?
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seen the jan awake - how jw's are hero's
by Jim Dee inthe latest awake is terrible.
the society is saying how they were heroes in the new york tragedy.
how they provided help to the rescue forces, how 14 jws died - of them a fireman and an elder in the congregation.
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TheOldHippie
Why the need to scan it? Why don't you just go to the nearest KH and get one?
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George Harisson has died
by sleepy inhe died last night in los angeles.. nows theres only two memmbers of the beatles left they'll never have a reunion.
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TheOldHippie
I just saw it; sad indeed, makes you sit back and think about all the memories. When I hear the name "Harrison", I'll always think about the Bangladesh concert and the "All things must pass" album. Let us hope he has reached his Nirvana.
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Is It True The WT Society Just Changed President ?
by Explorer inthere is a word going on down here that the wt society has changed president, and that the new guy apointed for the job is non - anoited.
is that posibly thruth or just a joke going arround?
has anyone heard such a thing?
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TheOldHippie
It is a bot amusing to see how some of the people who have such strong and voiced and accurate thoughts and positions on the Jehovah's Witnesses, are in the uttermost darkness when it comes to organizational build-up, corporations, who is "President" of the GB etc., in other words they don't have a clue as to the organization, but that doesn't prevent them from talking as if they were the ones having the complete knowledge of what is "really" going on within the Society ............
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Judgment Day Before 2024....
by sunscapes inthe link is http://www.caspro.com/caspro.htm.
recent guest on art bell show... http://www.artbell.com/.
as posted on website under "a brief history": .
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TheOldHippie
Seeker said,
**********************************************************************Humanity, if they survive, will reach the stars and begin populating the galaxy.
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Are not the stars frightfully HOT?