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The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil

by Dogpatch in

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dear randall.

good morning!.

here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!

TheOldHippie

"In addition, three members of the Branch of Brazil were invited to special training in the United States during the months of July and August 2012."

No reason to tie that up to the upcoming ZO visit. Branch members are regularly called in for training, there is a new Branch servant school. If Brasil has a high percentage of df/da, then that specific Brasilian problem will be discussed at the meeting, but don't expect anything global to come out of that. Different countries - different problems - different solutions. While much is centralized, much is also left for the different countries and different congregations. There is a balance between interference and no interference.

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Joseph Rutherford and Pastor Russell audio recordings

by Gnosis in

just wondering if anyone around here has managed to find any audio recordings of speeches or lectures given by pastor russel or joseph rutherford.. also would like to know if anyone has discovered any available recordings of "wbbr" which was formerly the radio station of jehovah's witnesses.. if you've found any mp3 format recordings please let me and readers of this thread know by posting available material.. thank you !.

i found a lecture titled "religion as a world remedy" by judge rutherford:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqnfueadssu.

TheOldHippie

As for Rutherford, you could search at ebay.co.uk (or ebay.com) and you will find that almost all of his speeches as well as recordings have been made available on CDs - mp3 - and are for sale for very little money. When it comes to Russell, the Photo-Drama of Creation is likewise available on CD/DVD, and there are parts of it where Russell appears "live"; some of the Angelophone Records are also available, and on some of them, brief lectures by Russell were combined with the songs and hence available.

Just start searching and PayPal-ing!

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The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil

by Dogpatch in

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friends

dear randall.

good morning!.

here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!

TheOldHippie

Changes in or dropping door-to-door is no reason for a special meeting or course. It is stressed on a weekly basis that one should look for alternatives to d-t-d work as people are not at home etc. And changes in conventions or meetings or other organizational stuff is no reason for special meetings. I don't think this is anything but a normal course, but IF something special is to be discussed, then it HAS to be something "theological", some doctrinal change, as all other things are easily dealt with thru letters or talks and are unimportant as such. A pioneer school of one week's duration is to be held in December, likewise in January, so there are no signs of any revolution at the doorstep.

I wonder how many times I have read here that the CO arrangement is going to be dropped "next year" .............

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Why did Jehovah's Witnesses release the Byington and New Jerusalem Bibles in the early 70s , and forget about them in the 80s?

by Balaamsass in

andover townsman, andover, ma.

july 26, 2012. dalton column: lawsuit concerns one of town's most interesting yet forgotten.

bill dalton.

TheOldHippie

JW never released the New Jerusalem Bible. They released the Byington and the KJ versions. (Apart from a few other releases back around 1900.)

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France ordered to pay millions for illegal taxation of Jehovahs Witnesses

by therevealer in

what power does "the european court of human rights" have in a case like this.

can they actually tell france what to do??

this is touted as the top story on http://www.jw-media.org/ and i am not sure if i am catching up on old news or not.

TheOldHippie

And if you look at the top left corner, you will see the date: July 5, 2012

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France ordered to pay millions for illegal taxation of Jehovahs Witnesses

by therevealer in

what power does "the european court of human rights" have in a case like this.

can they actually tell france what to do??

this is touted as the top story on http://www.jw-media.org/ and i am not sure if i am catching up on old news or not.

TheOldHippie

To the question, Yes, the European Court of Human Rights have the right to decide and to tell member states what to do. The member states must comply. There is no "what if they don't?", they must. The Court is the highest appeal court for all European nations, and organizations and individuals can appeal to it. If the appeal is allowed by the Court to be treated, the result is binding.

The French case is not on taxes as such, as claimed by some here, but on taxes placed on gifts. The French state claimed a 60 per cent tax on all gifts given for a number of years, and it should be noted that the WTB&TS was the only organization from which such taxes were claimed, so it was a clear cut case of trying to liquidate an organization. Whatever one might feel about such an attempt, the Court has now nullified the attempt. Last year, it was nullified, and the WTB&TS and the French state were asked to come together and discuss how the state should free the mortgages it had placed upon WTB&TS property (closing of brach office, convention halls and some Kingdom halls). The state refused to discuss, though, and therefore the Court now ordered it to follow the Court's decisions.

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The WTS "Brain Drain"

by Quendi in

i posted this on another thread and am pasting it here to start a new one because i would be interested in getting others' thoughts on it.. there has been a downward spiral in the quality of the written publications since the death of fred franz in december 1992. whatever else can be said about franz, the man did have some education and his writing was of good quality.

others in the writing department also had some skill and command of language that gave cogency to their work.

but since franz's death, a huge leadership vacuum has opened in the wts.

TheOldHippie

I agree with slimboyfat that Creator was a good book. And The Greatest Man.

But - WHO AND WHERE IS THE KING OF THE NORTH? The Soviet Union and company did fit hand in glove. I miss him. All was so neat.

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Trickery in WT publications

by bottleofwater in

http://mybrainwobbles.blogspot.com/2012/07/trickery-in-watchtower-publications.html.

TheOldHippie

I do not QUITE see the thourough research done by the blogger in stating that:

An example would be (not a real one, but close enough) 8 "He brought their livestock to blah blah blah." and they would make it refer to the King of one place. and then they would explain verse 9: "He took them to a great mountain." to mean a totally different character, even though the context actually shows that there is no switch in who the passage is referring to.

Not quite easy to find out exactly what trickery he is referring to ..................

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Memorial attendance DECLINED by 2.4% in the US from 2011 to 2012!

by sir82 in

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the september km is out, here is the thread pointing to it:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/228224/1/2012-september-kingdom-ministry.

of particular note is the "highlight" on page 4, announcing the attendance at the memorial in the usa.. the 2012 yearbook notes the memorial attendance in 2011 was 2.563,318, while in 2012, per the september 2012 km, it was 2,502,055 -- a decline of 2.4%.. .

TheOldHippie

Bahamas - Bermuda - how many US JWs have vacations there at Easter time? Or is the participation mainly local?

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Memorial attendance DECLINED by 2.4% in the US from 2011 to 2012!

by sir82 in

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friends

the september km is out, here is the thread pointing to it:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/228224/1/2012-september-kingdom-ministry.

of particular note is the "highlight" on page 4, announcing the attendance at the memorial in the usa.. the 2012 yearbook notes the memorial attendance in 2011 was 2.563,318, while in 2012, per the september 2012 km, it was 2,502,055 -- a decline of 2.4%.. .

TheOldHippie

The day of the week definitely is important in some countries, the more wealthy ones. If it is at the beginning or end of the Easter week, people are at home, but if it is in the middle of it, people are vacationing. With "people" I here mean those turning up once a year, at the Memorial, and perhaps a couple of times more.