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  Today's WT

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so today's wt seems to put out the idea that during early christian times it was god's hand that made the romans build roads, have strong laws, etc.

  to make the preaching easier.. anyone else notice that?

  some here really banged on about how great it was that god did that, just for them.

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  TheOldHippie

  Actually, it was one of the Church Fathers who speculated on this,quote

  "Expressing his viewpoint, third century theologian Origen wrote: “It would have hindered Jesus’ teaching
  from being spread through the whole world if there had been many kingdoms . . . because men everywhere would have been compelled to do military service and to fight in defence of their own land. . . . Accordingly, how could this teaching, which preaches peace and does not even allow men to take vengeance on their enemies, have had any success unless the international situation had everywhere been changed and a milder spirit prevailed at the advent of Jesus?”

  and the article said it was a possibility. So blame it on the Church Fathers.
  
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  Researching JW

  by Researcher1983 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear all,i am a student writing my thesis in the netherlands on feelings of belongings in jehovah witnesses, techniques used for conversion and experiences of ex witnesses.

  i would appreciate if anyone is willing to talk to me.

  i can provide more information about my research.

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  TheOldHippie

  Since you want to hear about what JWs feel, perhaps you should contact some JWs?
  
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  Things that I trust more than Hillary Clinton

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. social
  2. humour

  things that i trust more than hillary clinton:.

  mexican tap water.

  any email from nigeria.

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  TheOldHippie

  "It seems that all the choice they give the people in the USA is whether the chief spokesperson for the country is moderately conservative or liberal."

  Or seen from a European persepective: "whether the chief spokesperson for the country is extremely conservative or ultra-conservative."
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  "In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth . ."

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so where did god exist before he created the heavens?

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  TheOldHippie

  Since He is a spirit being, He exists "nowhere", He exists outside of the psysical realm. Time began existing only when matter came into existence, so talking about Him existing countless of millions of years before the Universe came into existence, is nonsense - before the Universe, before matter, there was no time. Einstein for dummies.
  
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  Governing Body Public Address - today!

  by diamondblue1974 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any ideas what this is about?

  - apparently a three hour public address through each kingdumb hell from the gb.

  anyone heard anything about this?.

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  TheOldHippie

  Why on Earth this frenzy? It is just the annual zone servant visit! He had visited for decades, various congregations have been invited, but now it is aired. No fuzz at all!
  
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  Mass Killer Joseph McEnroe stops studying with Jehovah's Witnesses after talking to elders

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on 25 march 2015 joseph mcenroe was found guilty of the 2007 mass killing of six members of his then-girlfriend's family, including two young children aged 3 and 5. a jury is currently deciding whether he should be executed.. associated press has recently reported that.... mcenroe confirmed that he felt some sort of acceptance with jehovah's witnesses until he told elders he didn't have a guilt-free conscience.

  he stopped studying to be a minister.. mcenroe was quoted as stating the reason why he stopped studying being that.... "i felt that i had failed and that i had been rejected by god at that point.".

  read news report here carnation killer testifies in sentencing trial.

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  TheOldHippie

  I have rather small problems in seeing the irony that you don't have to report a serial killer, but you have to form a committee if he tasted a bit of weed ............................
  
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  No more eating children with the rod??

  by paulmolark in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so a friend of mine who is still in and knows i am disassociated sent me an email saying the following, "hey, did you see the new article about disciplining your children?????

  there is not one single outright mention of beating your kids anymore.

  no mention of the r"rod of discipline"!

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  TheOldHippie

  Beating/slapping is forbidden in many countries, and the WT literature here tells it is figurative meaning only.
  
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  Bible Students Are NOW CONSIDERED JEHOVAHS WITNESSES

  by Blackfalcon98 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  oh my, while attending one of the boasting sessions.....an elder made reference to recent changes in watchtower terminology.

  of these changes, he mentioned that bible students are now considered to be jehovah's witnesses!

  this shocked me, so i was wondering have anyone else heard of this new change?

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  TheOldHippie

  Utterly nonsense. Probably, you were half asleep and have caught parts of several sentences.
  
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  Conspiracy Theory ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we are all aware here that the wt/jw org is trying its hardest to wriggle out of paying rightful compensation in the form of damages to victims of abuse who bring a claim.. they must be worried about future claims too, not just from decades ago, but from the present, as they have not made any effort as yet to truly protect the vulnerable.. here is my question :.

  as they now direct the congregations through the organization known as "the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses" and as in each country this organization is headed and run by a few mendicants with no assets, do you think in future the big jw/wt corporations will deny all responsibility for abuse, by saying the very poor "christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses", which owns no property/real estate and has no cash or other assets, is alone responsible ????

  hence no pay out ?.

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  TheOldHippie

  The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

  That is no big deal. Outside the US, all countries have had such legal entities which are the non-printing parts of the WT. When this is also introduced in the US, together with a branch of its own, it is suddenly a big deal. It is not.
  
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  The Logisitcs of Destroying Organized Religion

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they define babylon the great as the "world empire of false religion", and that jehovah god will use the united nations to turn on her.. .

  the "keep on the watch" brochure says the following, regarding the destruction of babylon the great:.

  "for our day, the bible forecasts that political governments, like a wild beast, will turn on "the harlot" and strip her naked, exposing her real .

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  TheOldHippie

  A friend of mine finished his Ph.D. thesis in world politics, or better the East-West conflict, in spring 1989. His main point was that the Socialist system as seen in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe was "here to stay" and would remain active for a very long time.

  One year later, it was all gone. He and I had great fun autumn 1989, each weekend a new Socialist country "fell". How he wished he had never finished his Ph.D.

  So things can happen fast. That said, I have huge problems seeing the UN deciding anything like the present understanding, but things can be said and done in a very different way, and it can be one of the foremost examples of how prophecy is only understood afterwards.