(quote, messiah christ jesus) - "but of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but "my father only" <--that's proof that christ is not god, cause if christ was infact god,'dont you think he would know about the coming of his kingdom, also christ said" my father only" , um he said my father, therefore christ is the son of god, infact !!
!christ prayed to god!!
!<---you cant ignore that.. all this cometh str from the bible, and the bible tongues has/been change, but no the words, everything is true.. so prove me wrong, um you cant, so pay attention....
praying is worship. is more than just a request. it is an intimate relationship between that being worshipped and that doing the worshipping -exempt, of course to idiom and local colloquialisms.
col 1:15 -makes it impossible to make Jesus equal to his father.
the student/creation can never be >= to the master/creator, unless of course you are Darth Vader.
when i first came here i was happy to find a place where i could laugh, get pissed off or just speak my mind on a subject.the people i have met here are some of the most,kind,careing,informative,helpfull souls.
i couldn`t have asked for a better group to be involved with.i do not always agree with my board mates.even with the ones who piss me off,there is still a comradeship(yk comes to mind,lol).finding this board has taught me one important thing.we are not alone,we have each other...outlaw
yes it has changed me, but i fear not for the better, it has made me even more skeptical and more distrusting of individuals than ever.
this is the only place where i have ever seen people making threats to reveal others true ID, etc.
to boot the administrator of the forum collects info on you, although i don't see where it's covered in his policy, and then make threats to use the info he gathers on you to turn you into your employer. talk about control and misuse of power.
you asked the question OUTLAW, i'm just giving you an honest reply.
at work last week, i was sitting in the break room doing some of my paperwork, there was a couple worldly girls sitting at a table--penny and lisa, then walked in sister tammie, and sat beside them.
i rolled my eyes as i normally do, for sister tammy is the dub of all dubs, always at the hall, always leaving awake rags all over the place, always looking for converts..... okay, i'm there trying to act inconspicuous, for sister tammie is a sister in law to my ex-dumb dub boyfriend, and well, i'm pretty much now satanic in nature to all in that particular congreg.
for what extremes i had to go to, to get him out of my life...but me easedropping on their conversation, at times is amusingly worth it.. "so, how did the doctor's appt.
i figured you all go up end that it's a Jdub thing. i was waiting to see the way this was going, your deep bias against Jdubs is sickening.
read the womens trades like my wife gets on women stuff and invaribly there are questions in there about someone using a tampon and questioning their virginity. so is it JDubs who are the idiots or just women? -don't like it when i genrallize do you? putting ALL women in the category of idiots, but you all can do it to the Jdubs. sounds hypocritical to me.
target
that's not a JDub cure either, who is the idiot now. that's one treatment for "whole health healing" for individuals who are not comfortable with taking all the risky pills that Dr's perscribe to try and shove down thier patients throats. there are mor people who take that approach to healing then there are JDubs in the world.
Edited by - thewiz on 31 July 2002 20:40:28
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
what bothers me is the assumption that whenever there is a public announcement/advertisement/p ortrayal of racism it is ALWAYS the white person who is portrayed as the racist. why is that?
Halle Berry said her father was a racist, in her Oscar winning speech, and he is black.
i was thinking about this the other day.
since i've left the borg, i find myself loving other humans more.
like all the little children being abducted, the miners trapped in the mine last week, the victims of car accidents that i pass on the road, a woman crying in the car next to me while waiting for the green light, the homeless that i see every weekend at a local soup kitchen where i volunteer, etc.
no. just being honest.
'ceptin' for my kids (and maybe my wife )
pale recluse
i am with you. but i'm not jesting.
someone please show me how to love.
i really need your feedback .
i am really down on the dumps regarding being shunned and torn apart about da (i haven't yet).
a week ago i wrote to dr. phil on oprah and wrote briefly about jw practices on shunning.
let me/us know when it/you will be on and i will be sure to tape it.
bald is beautiful. being bald is better than going bald.
my daddy wants to sue the elders!!!!
i am having a tremendous amount of fun with this, not that i would let him do it, (wouldnt do any good), but i find it so very sweet of him.
here is what happened.
and i called the guy that nearly ran me off the road a "f%&kin' idiot" how's that going to get me sued? it's MY opinion. if a person, who just happens to be an elder, voices his OPINION, then how can he be sued for it?
also, where's the proof that he called you that? isn't it just your word that he said that. saying something for discussion value and proving it, especially in a court of law, are two very differnet things.
since russell didn't tie the corporation into nice neat religious package and didn't ward off all other religions as evil, when did the practice of disfellowshipping start?.
when did they decided to formulate judicial committees and start reproving, marking and df'ing?
it was done as soon as it was figured out that it was the quickest way to discredit someone and win the argument.
there are hundreds and hundreds of permitted extra-curricular activities for jw's to enjoy.
activities that have nothing to do with religion or worship where jw's can really have a ball!.
so, for all of you people who sometimes wonder if you should perhaps go back, lets all list the permitted fun things that any witness can do in his / her spare time.. i'll get the ball rolling:.
ozziepost
your post about a kid kicking a soccer ball reminds me of one picture of the ever future paradise earth. in the background of a picture can be seen either a tractor or bulldozer so my guess is, fossil full running vehicles are now allowed in the new system.
which made me further think on the "danger" of that. say something like, "in the new system i'm going to get in my car and travel, travel, travel." the first response is, you guessed it. "we aren't going to hace cars in the new system." "oh, OK then I'll ride a horse or walk.", etc.
then what does the WTB&TS do? -they put a tractor in a picture, which sends volumes out to the privleged class. now cars, by implication are OK.
i used to hate the kingdom melodies, but maybe i did like one or two i think one was called "apostates on the march" @ i feel so human
there is/was one song that had the line "...like bees that were molested." -i always sang that piece with a smirk and like i was a mindless drone.
