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  JWZone Thread on Bill Bowen - UPDATED!

  by SYN in

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  yes i know you're all getting p*d off with my jwzone threads, but i couldn't let this one go by!!!!!!

  so, i'm just going to embed the thread here and let you guys comment...hehe...some jwzoners are going to get their heads bitten off in this thread!

  edited by - syn on 8 august 2002 13:43:36.

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  ThiChi

  Thanks for the info...wow, I remember when not too long ago I would have posted like these dubs. I feel sorry for the whole lot of them.
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  Someone about to open a can of whoop ass

  by LyinEyes in

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  2. friends

  oh yeah , the can shall be opened very soon.. we were ratted on for smoking at the dance club a few weeks ago, the dub that did it told our elders and we just said to hell with it all, we don't beleive it is the "truth" anymore and want to disassociate ourselves.

  we told the elders that smoking was not the problem, the borg was, the lies, the child abuse, the cover ups, the changes etc.

  in fact i dont even smoke now.

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  ThiChi

  Feel sorry for your ex friend. His actions are the product of being totally controlled by fear of "men in authority."
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  Someone about to open a can of whoop ass

  by LyinEyes in

  1. jw
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  oh yeah , the can shall be opened very soon.. we were ratted on for smoking at the dance club a few weeks ago, the dub that did it told our elders and we just said to hell with it all, we don't beleive it is the "truth" anymore and want to disassociate ourselves.

  we told the elders that smoking was not the problem, the borg was, the lies, the child abuse, the cover ups, the changes etc.

  in fact i dont even smoke now.

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  ThiChi

  It is truly easier to seek forgiveness than permission..............That is, if the "dub" is staying. He gets Points for turning you in!
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  The Virtues of Promiscuity?

  by ThiChi in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i only present this information for your consideration: .

  the virtues of promiscuity .

  sally lehrman, alternet.

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  ThiChi

  Ladies, is this true? Since most here have been affected with the JW/Christian ideal of family and sex, I here present a very different conclusion. I only present this information for your consideration:

  The Virtues of Promiscuity
  Sally Lehrman, AlterNet
  July 22, 2002
  
  "Slutty" behavior is good for the species. That is the conclusion
  of a new wave of research on the evolutionary drives behind
  sexuality and parenting.
  
  Women everywhere have been selflessly engaging in trysts
  outside of matrimony. And they have been doing it for a good
  long time and for excellent reasons. Anthropologists say female
  promiscuity binds communities closer together and improves
  the gene pool.
  
  More than 20 tribal societies accept the principle that a child
  could, and ideally ought to, have more than one father, according
  to Pennsylvania anthropologist Stephen Beckerman. "As one
  looks, it begins to crop up in a lot of places," says Beckerman,
  who has reviewed dozens of reports on tribes from South
  America, New Guinea, Polynesia and India as co-editor of the
  newly released book, "Cultures of Multiple Fathers."
  
  Less than 50 years ago, Canela women, who live in Amazonian
  Brazil, enjoyed the delights of as many as 40 men one after
  another in festive rituals. When it was time to have a child, they'd
  select their favorite dozen or so lovers to help their husband with
  the all-important task. Even today, when the dalliances of
  married Bar ladies in Columbia and Venezuela result in a child,
  they proudly announce the long list of probable fathers.
  
  In other words, the much-touted evolutionary bargain of female
  fidelity for food -- trotted out by evolutionary psychologists with
  maddening regularity -- just doesn't hold up.
  
  "This model of the death-do-us-part, missionary-position couple
  is just a tiny part of human history," says anthropologist Kristen
  Hawkes, who has spent years studying the foraging habits of the
  Ach, a Paraguayan people, and the North Tanzanaian tribe
  Hadza, who also celebrate a rich love life. "The patterns of
  human sexuality are so much more variable."
  
  American college students still learn that human society is
  based on the age-old economic contract between the sexes:
  Men hunt and women raise children. Fathers provide meat for
  the family, and in exchange, moms offer fidelity and the
  guarantee of paternity. While men -- who produce millions of
  sperm -- are inveterate philanderers, gals, stuck with relatively
  few eggs that require a significant investment, tend to be choosy
  and coy. Men therefore are biologically prone to spreading their
  seed far and wide, while women focus on finding the perfect
  pop.
  
  "This evidence is a real thumb in the eye for that view," says
  Beckerman.
  
  Anthropologists claim, good judgment aside, evolution has
  nudged women a bit toward promiscuity and sexual adventure.
  In all well-studied primates, females exhibit a polyandrous
  tendency when given the opportunity to stray. Some who cheat
  appear to be more fertile, and the offspring of most are more
  likely to survive. Fooling around appears to have helped our
  ancestral mothers equip their little ones for success -- the
  sexual equivalent of reading to them every night or enrolling
  them in the after-school chess club.
  
  "Women tend to do things that are associated with the welfare of
  their kids," Hawkes says.
  
  In contrast to the sex-for-food model, multiple and various sexual
  pairings have little to do with adding to the larder in the groups
  Hawkes studies. The average Hadza hunter, who can only bring
  in a big game carcass once a month, has to share his kill with
  everyone. His wife and kids just have to get in line. Extra mates
  add a little genetic diversity. But Hawkes says females likely
  hook up with multiple males for safety more than any other
  benefit -- a mother's strong emotional bonds with more than one
  fellow provide an extra protective hand in times of danger.
  
  An economic incentive promotes female infidelity in Bar society.
  All of the Bar children who had more than one father were more
  likely to survive into adulthood, fortified by small gifts of fish and
  game in times of scarcity. Multiple dads also help ensure a
  child's health. Since a father is necessary to blow tobacco
  smoke over the little one's body if he or she falls ill, the more
  potential volunteers the better.
  
  Elderly Bar ladies chuckle and nudge each other as they talk
  about a lifetime of lovers. But the pleasure wasn't only their own.
  The men benefited, too. It turns out Bar males can't count on a
  very long life. The Venezuelan tribe suffers from bouts of malaria
  and tuberculosis and, until 1960, was repeatedly attacked by
  landowners, oil companies, and homesteaders in the region.
  Most of the victims have been reproductive-age males. "You
  know that if you die, there's some other man who has a residual
  obligation to care for at least one of your children," Beckerman
  explains. "So looking the other way or even giving your blessing
  when your wife takes a lover is the only insurance you can buy."
  
  Even evolutionary psychologists, stout defenders of the
  meat-for-fidelity model, are beginning to acknowledge the
  benefits of women's "slutty" behavior. University of Texas
  psychologist David Buss gives the most credit to what he terms
  "mate insurance," a backup replacement in case the male
  partner doesn't survive.
  
  Social approval of infidelity does not, however, imply a
  corresponding devaluation of marriage. "They're very, very
  faithful," says Beckerman's co-author Paul Valentine about the
  Curripaco, who live on the border between Columbia and
  Venezuela. The tribe believes that conception is a process that
  requires a lot of work, and the men are quick to take credit for
  their joint labors. "They say, 'Hey, this is really hard work having a
  baby,'" Valentine says. "And they really put on a smug look."
  
  Physiological data supports the theory that women have been
  sleeping around for centuries. For starters, men have evolved to
  compete in their partner's reproductive tract. Human males have
  large testicles that manufacture plenty of semen, especially
  when they reunite with their wives after separation. Their sperm
  includes coil-tailed versions that block instead of carry the ball.
  Females cooperate when they want to -- more often with their
  lovers than with their mates, according to one study. Women
  retain slightly more sperm after orgasm, and in the throes of
  excitement may even draw the virgin swimmers up through the
  cervix and into the uterus, according to British sexologist R.
  Robin Baker.
  
  Still, David Buss places most of the blame for all this wanderlust
  on the guys. Bottom line, sperm are cheap and eggs are
  expensive, he says. He cites his own 1993 studies of college
  undergraduates. Women said they'd like maybe up to five
  partners in a lifetime. Men in various surveys ranged from 18 up
  to 1,000. Sure, both sexes have one-night stands. Both also can
  mate for life. But men tend toward variety and women will most
  often stay true to the stable, dependable provider, Buss claims.
  "Women typically have high standards in either case; men are
  willing to go down to the tenth percentile (for short-term
  partners), as long as she can mumble," he says.
  
  Anthropologists are not so sure. Some say today's emphasis on
  female monogamy may have more to do with socio-economic
  trends than evolutionary instincts.
  
  Extramarital trysts were a way of life for the Canela -- until the
  encroachment of outsiders. "Multiple lovers, that's just part of the
  life. It's recreation, just like races and running. It's all done in the
  spirit of joy and fun," says William Crocker of the Smithsonian
  Institution, who has studied the Brazilian tribe since 1957. When
  a woman got pregnant with her husband, she would go out to
  find as many as five more "fathers" for her fetus. Since every bit
  of semen was believed to contribute to the baby, a dedicated
  mom looked for a variety of desirable traits in her lovers: sexual
  skills, good looks, oratory talents, top-notch singing abilities --
  and naturally, a good provider.
  
  Crocker says the Canela's sexual customs began to disappear
  after the arrival of traders, who brought in material goods such
  as machetes, axes, pots and pans, introducing the idea of
  exclusive ownership. The missionaries came next. The
  evangelists, who arrived in the early 1970s, translated the Bible
  into Canelan and did their part to discourage the tribe's sexual
  intimacy.
  
  The pattern is repeating itself with the Bar as missionaries
  import rural Catholic values. Beckerman says, "I suppose it
  doesn't mean there's any less fooling around, it's just that the
  fathers don't take responsibility for it and the mothers don't admit
  it."
  
  Modern relationships are not all that different. High infidelity,
  remarriage and divorce rates may have less to do with modernity
  than with our collective sexual past. "It makes the variation we're
  seeing in modern society so much more understandable,"
  Hawkes says.
  
  If the anthropologists are right, monogamy may well be
  counter-evolutionary or an adaptation to modern life. Or perhaps
  the nuclear family has always been more of an ideal than a
  reality.
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  WT literature in the trash can

  by Nordic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am born in the truth.now i am 40 years old and have thrown all my wt literature in the trash can.i am ashamed that i have been in the watchtower orginazation and in my prayer to jehovah i have said that i only belong to him.

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  ThiChi

  I have been removing my WT "stuff" in stages. The Watchtower & Awakes were the first to go when I DAed myself. After about a year, certain books like Live Forever, Year books and the like went south.

  Last month, the song books went south with all my Kms. I still cant let go my Flock Book, my Pioneer Book or my Talk outlines and notes (I really dont know why). I also have some WT Elder letters that ended up in my files somehow.
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  New name for WBTS?!? *and boobies

  by LizardSnot in

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  the watchtower bible and tract society has changed its name to....tada.... christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

  did we just create a sect?.

  is this new name not to be confused with the following?:.

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  ThiChi

  How about "The Peoples Republic of JWs" hehe
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  * t g i f *

  by zev in

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  so, whats up for your friday nite, my fellow 'postates?.

  whatchya doing to chill/relax/unwind?.

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  ThiChi

  Haaa, a trip down to the local lounge to hear some great bar music (CCR, Stones, BTO, Beatles) and smoke a Cuban PSD#4 with a Rum and Coke. Add some friends...........Sweet!
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  I. P. Freeley.

  by Englishman in

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  remember when we were kid's at school, how we used to love to make up book titles with fictitious authors to match?.

  this sort of thing:.

  "the dangerous cliff" by eileen dover.. "the un-answered telephone" by isabelle ringing.. "bare-back horse riding" by major bumsaw.. the fad faded for a while only to surface in a re-generated form for "the simpsons".

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  ThiChi

  We played a trick on a fellow employee. We had him return a phone call from a Mr. "Pat Smear." The number he called was a Gynecological Clinic! "Hello, is Mr. Pat Smear there?"

  We were all rolling! He was red when the lady on the other end explained he was calling a Gynecological Clinic!!!!!!
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  I. P. Freeley.

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  remember when we were kid's at school, how we used to love to make up book titles with fictitious authors to match?.

  this sort of thing:.

  "the dangerous cliff" by eileen dover.. "the un-answered telephone" by isabelle ringing.. "bare-back horse riding" by major bumsaw.. the fad faded for a while only to surface in a re-generated form for "the simpsons".

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  ThiChi

  Confucius say: "Man who lays on ground has piece on earth."

  "Constipation Made Easy" by Hung Chow
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  Why do so many people believe that jesus is god?

  by Legendary U.2.K. in

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  2. bible

  i still say that, christiaity is f--- up in these last days.. christianity teaches that the messiah is god, when the bible clearly points out that jesus is a prophet sent by god... jesus prayed to god<----that's the biggest proof... so i think if anybody believe that jesus is god, is not only an'-ti-christ(not accepting) but also a liar, foolish, and you knoweth nothing, and you are not close to god or christ, you are closer to that devil which we call satan....

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  ThiChi

  NewWay: I like you bro!

  Just reading the Post-apostolic Fathers writtings for the first 300 years shows that the "T" is not a teaching embraced by the early "Church"

  Little Toe: "oh my god, another post from you!!"

  Edited by - thichi on 1 August 2002 13:31:41