first expulsion: adam and eve.
first disfellowshipping: cain.
biblical practice, got any questions?
You prove my point. The prodical son did not have to wait three months to a year be accepted back into his fathers house, did he? Why not?
It goes very well with Paul’s views. Paul was talking about persons who ARE fornicators, who ARE greedy persons not persons who were once these things at one time.
Also, Paul stated that the majority who rebuked the wrongdoer was enough. Paul says nothing about disfellowshipping the minority who choose not to rebuke the wrongdoer.
jws dissfellowship jesus!.
yes its true!.
we are nearing the time of year now when jws gather in their millions and display utter rejection of their saviour jesus christ.. this empty ritual known as the memorial, will be taking place around the world soon.. bread and wine will be passed before the eyes of each individual witness and 99.5 % of them will reject it.. why?
Hallelujah! Poor me another one, boys...........
first expulsion: adam and eve.
first disfellowshipping: cain.
biblical practice, got any questions?
Yes the practice of withdrawing fellowship is mentioned in the Bible(like the example of a extreme case of immorality in 1Cor). However, it is the misuse of disfellowshipping that is wrong and not Bible based.
As an example, the JW misuse of disfellowshipping many times makes invalid Jesus’ restoration examples of the Prodical Son and the Shepard leaving the 99 sheep to reclaim the one.
today, while on the phone with my jw mother, she drops the, by the way do you want to come to the memorial thing for the first time in i don't know how many years.
i was kind of taken aback and said that i would think about it.
obviously, i have no intention of going, but should i just say nothing, say no, or just say i don't agree with the jw doctrine at all and to attend would be hypocritical of me?
Go for mom's sake.....put a smile on her face. Also, the meeting will help reinforce why you stay away!
Also, you can report back to us on any new points or light that may come forth.........
PS: do you like wine????
this quote comes from a recent post: "countless humans have died because of satan's stinking deed in the garden.
" for the sake of my question, please forget that it came from a jw, after all most christians blame satan and/or adam & eve for bringing down the curse of age and death on humans.
my question: why does god never get any of the blame for this?
Adam, you are very, very, right....at least we are aware of what is going on..............
Rhett: Man, I hear you.
this quote comes from a recent post: "countless humans have died because of satan's stinking deed in the garden.
" for the sake of my question, please forget that it came from a jw, after all most christians blame satan and/or adam & eve for bringing down the curse of age and death on humans.
my question: why does god never get any of the blame for this?
God is good. God is all powerful. Evil exists.
I think about this perplexing situation at least once a day.............
new world order?
http://educate-yourself.org/nwoindex.html.
chemtrails?
How do you prove a negative? How can you prove I can’t fly? Pretty hard, huh?
I do not see any evidence of a world wide order. Britain and the US could have implemented much after world two (we had nukes, Russia was reeling form the war with Germany). Why not do something then? As humankind, we are just not that smart.
However, on a national level, I do see agendas. You can make a case regarding the Federal Reserve/IRS and the momentary standard (our currency is not redeemable in gold now, but based on just thin air) and the taxation on personal income tax since 1913 contrary to the constitution. Yet, this is a progression of all powers that are not kept in check by the people......
hey guys and girls.
i think it's time we started a uadsp :.
unseen apostate directorate of the south pacific.. who's going to head up the australian division?
I already own a fez! And a red smoking jacket.....
new world order?
http://educate-yourself.org/nwoindex.html.
chemtrails?
This was all covered in the X-files, third season.
as we have learned by our jw experience, truth and facts are not always what they seem........ gun control science misfires friday, april 13, 2001. by steven milloy.
gun control advocates used to claim that more guns meant more crime.
research demonstrated, though, that more guns meant less crime.
Gun death" statistics are frequently cited, in the manner above, to strongly suggest that guns are the cause behind the high violent death rate in the U.S. As in the case of the Los Angeles Times article, no mention is made that over half of those violent deaths are suicides. The CNN article mentions gun homicides and gun suicides, but fails to show us the total violent death rate of other countries, not just gun deaths. For example, in Japan, where gun ownership is rare, its total suicide rate is higher than our total suicide rate.
Combining gun suicide and homicide deaths creates a sensational comparison with other countries, but only clouds and distorts the many factors actually behind violent death rates. Looking at only gun deaths, it is easy to get the false impression that, because of guns, the United States is the most violent country on earth.
Rather than being the "league leader" in violent death rates, as the sensational and misleading media reports suggest when focusing exclusively on guns, though the U.S. is still high, its violent death rate is not orders of magnitude higher than other countries. (See also international homicide comparisons.)
The "gun death" statistic is seldom referenced within its proper perspective and context. Also rare is the article that mentions the number of lives saved through defensive gun use and that our homicide rate is at a thirty year low and still declining (FBI Uniform Crime Reports).
