Posts by Thirdson

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Any Xtians want to answer this for me please?

by uncle_onion in

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i have been reading a bit of thomas paine.

paine lived in the 17th century and was an agnostic.

i have many points that i want to share with you and i thought that this would be a good start.

Thirdson

Hi UO,

Moses didn't write it. Maybe he wrote some of it, but Genesis as well as most of the oldest Hebrew scriptures are a compilation of numerous writings. Genesis tells most tales twice, often overlaid and embedded in each other. Since the Hebrew scripture we know today were compiled around the time of the Babylonian captivity period you can bet that they contain details in the history written long after the events.

Anyway, since Genesis contains a lot of myth, Adam and Eve, Noah, the tower of Babel, why should the history be treated as absolutely accurate?

Thirson

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a plane crash in siberia

by Drue in

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dont really know why i'm posting this on a jw forum.

i found the story very sad.

i work for an airline and live not too far from the place of the accident.. .

Thirdson

Mulan,

I had a similar experience but not as scary. I flew UK to Bulgaria on a TU154. The aircraft has a large but low undercarriage for use on gravel airstrips and consequently entry had to be made from steps rather than a jetway. The overhead luggage racks were open like on buses, there were no other niceties on the plane compared to Western designs. When the plane began the landing approach the cabin lights were turned off completely and the airconditioning filled the cabin with a light mist which made it really eerie!

I have had much scarier rides in the US flying in snow storms and severe cold and on one plane when it it took 2 hours to get an engine started after the Captain reported he had "flooded" it trying to start the engine in -20 F temps.

It is always sad when a plane goes down. I was sickened when I saw the news footage of the Concorde crash last year. It meant something much more to me as I had worked on Concorde components as a young engineer and toured the factory when it was being being built.

Thirdson

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Fouth of July Celebrating!

by Lindy in

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happy fourth of july everyone who celebrates it.

so is anyone having fun today?

picnics, fireworks, parades?

Thirdson

Amazing,

Actual court transcript:

Lawyer: "How many autopsies have you performed on dead people?"

Coroner: "ALL my autopsies have been on dead people!"

Thirdson

P.S. This non-citizen will be down at the local lake for a concert and fireworks display tonight.

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Making a Difference!

by Amazing in

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some may ask themselves why they post on forums such as this one.

they may wonder what compels them to do so.

you may wonder what causes others to keep at this so frequently.

Thirdson

Thanks Amazing,

There were many good things that you stated and I feel the same way about many of points you made.

The Future! In the aftermath of what comes about in the next few months ... I feel that many more will leave the JWs or stop studying and walk away. This issue alone may be enough to send the Watch Tower numbers spiraling down.

I sometimes wonder just how many people are in the process of leaving, those that go through the motions of being a JW but are reading all the Internet info that is out there. How many in addition to the 2000+ registered members here are lurking in the background and to whom the "fit hitting the shan" is not going to be a real surprise but the final motivation to get out?

Talking of numbers: the 2170 members here is more than the peak number of JW's in 105 countries. There are more members here than JWs in Alaska and double the number in Israel. "Truly a mighty nation..." as the say in Watchtowerland.

Thirdson

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F1

by Alternative in

i don't know now where i formed this question before,.

so i start a new topic.. formula 1. great european sport.. now lets see who are the real experts.. no need waiting until the end of the season.. i think michael schumacher in his ferarri will be the champion.. does any one agree.

or disagree as most here do that for a living.. now lets see who are the real experts.. no need waiting until the end of the season.. i think michael schumacher in his ferarri will be the champion.. does any one agree.

Thirdson

Alternative,

I think this should be posted on the relevant board as it is a bit off topic. However, I used to dash home after the Sunday morning Watchtower study to watch F1. No after-meeting FS for me. Those were the days of Murray Walker and James Hunt as commentators.

These days I get up at 6:30 am on Sundays to watch F1 when it is raced in Europe. However, it is not just a European Sport, since races are run in Canada, the US and Brazil as well as the far east and Australia...OK, so all the the teams are European with some Japanese engines (which can be said about the design of the majority of open-wheel race cars including CART and Indy.)

Michael S will win the championship, not that I'm a fan of his. I don't think David Coulthard has a chance now. Brother Ralf could have a real chance next year if the Williams team continues to improve in the way it has this season.

Thirdson

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Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty

by Maximus in

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here's another example of how the society uses selective quotations.

(see the thread blood, the watchtower and deceit for two other examples, carefully documented.

under the title "is it wrong to pronounce gods name?

Thirdson

Thanks Maximus,

An excellent piece, I will save it for future reference. When you see the dishonesty in these quotes it makes you wonder about everything the WTS quotes. The Creator book is crammed full of unidentified quotes, many of which, I would guess knowing the expertise of the authors quoted, are taken out of context. If wish I had the time to find the source of the quotes.

Thirdson

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EWTN Interview with former JW

by Thirdson in

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did anyone see the ewtn (the catholic network) interview with john davis last night?

i missed it because i went to bed early last night but mrs thirdson watched the interview and told me about it this morning.

the interview series is with people who have converted to rc.

Thirdson

Hi all,

Did anyone see the EWTN (The Catholic Network) interview with John Davis last night? I missed it because I went to bed early last night but Mrs Thirdson watched the interview and told me about it this morning. The interview series is with people who have converted to RC. John made some interesting comments and I'd like to watch the interview now.

I think I have exchanged e-mail with John a few times and I will make contact again. If you are reading this board John would you say Hello.

Thirdson

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i just had my meeting with the ELDERS !!!!

by jurs in

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hey everyone ,.

i'm high as a kite.

it went awesome !!!!

Thirdson

Jurs,

W.T.G!

You never know what real good you have done. While things may be hard, the shunning etc, another brick was chipped out of the 'tower. The elders will think twice about a visit to anyone else DA'ing, if they think thrice they might wake up to the real truth.

Great job, glad things went so well.

Thirdson

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Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't

by TR in

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any one here get that sinking feeling when you were an active jw?

i'm not talking about the point where we developed doubts about the borg, but just the shear weight of responsibility on your shoulders to uphold "god's kingdom" ala wts.. the topic of doing all you can was brought up frequently.

some would try to sooth by saying "as long as you're doing your best, jehovah will accept you.

Thirdson

Hi to all the good people here!

There are so many good things being said about the "bad" here! I can identify with so much. For about 6 years my then wife didn't take much of an active part and I know why and eventually I felt the same way. However, the pressure was always on. For a few years I tried to aux pioneer at least one month in the year. I'd take a weeks vacation to do as much of the 60 hours as possible that week and still have some semblance of life the other three weeks (a JW and have a life, ha!) I timed it to be an Aux Pio during the CO's visit an attend the pioneer meeting. But I got a condescending tone from the last CO because I wasn't a "real" pioneer.

At ine time I did the cong' accounts, stayed late after every meeting, couldn't miss meetings, did my 10 hours, was a book study conductor, a father, had a full time job etc, ect, not much different to everyone else here. I did use to cheat and underline the Watchtower in 5 to 10 minutes frequently. When asked to read the Watchtower one Sunday, (not my turn) I confessed to not having prepared and declined. (I could have read it without preparation better than anyone else anytime but thought it was not right...for my sin I didn't read again for 2 years when I was allowed to again following my appointment as elder). When I gave up "lording" over the flock I felt the pressure reduce considerably, felt so good, I quit FS soon afterwards.

Free2bme,

You went to one in Spain! We went to a KH in Italy and didn't understand a word! I hated the questioning as well. I made all sorts of excuses, work was a good one. I'd stay late and get home about 7:00 p.m if I didn't a part, too late to get cleaned up and go out again.

I still think life can be quite an ordeal. I can't imagine how I coped being a JW.

Thirdson

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POLL - Elders vs Molesters

by Amazing in

i wish to conduct a legitimate poll, or at least as legitimate as it can get on this forum.

unless you are or were a jw, please do not respond or make comments.

please simply give an answer, without extended comments.

Thirdson

i knew 2 JW child molesters

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