Posts by Threestars

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df'd and having doubts..JC knows

by Caine in

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before i got df'd for you know what i told the brothers i was having doubts....think theylll keep me out longer?.

Threestars

Yes, it is very very hard to stay away and that is because of fear, pure and simple. You have been "indoctrinated" with this fear. I came back, (or tried to) about three times because of the fear and shame the organization had branded into my mind since early childhood. I finally did the "fade" but they actually caught up with me after about ten years and I was formally DFed. Even though I hadn't been to a meeting in years I was still horribly traumatized and was almost catatonic for weeks. This is cult mind-control at its finest. They hate being called a cult but read up about cults while you are here--I don't know it offhand but someone here should have a link to the page that lists all the earmarks of a cult. It's "eye-opening" believe me. It's probably too soon for you to take this step but you should read Ray Franz's "Crisis of Conscience". His very name probably sends shivers of fear down your spine and this is just the way the org wants you to feel. Reading his book after being DFed for over fifteen years is finally what broke the chains of fear for me. The org wants you in those chains. They are just men and nothing more, and they control the lives of millions on a whim. They will also destroy these lives on a whim. He truly exposed "The Man/Men Behind the Curtain" with his beautiful and heartbreaking book.

Best wishes to you and stay strong. You are an individual and you have great worth. The org made me an agnostic because I distrust ALL religion now, but I sense that you have a strong belief in God. It will be very hard for you to pray since they have told you, as they told me, that Jehovah's ears are now blocked to your prayers. The thought of praying to Jesus probably frightens you too, since that is a JW BIG no-no, but just try having a little "informal" one-sided chat with him. Or, express your fears to the Universe--read the Tao Te Ching. Try to build up your own sense of worth.

Peace

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My Story: They called the cops on me!

by EnlightenedMind in

i found this website a few days ago, and ive stayed up until 3 and 4 a.m. every night since reading the all-too-familiar stories.

i applaud you for sharing your stories and being so open and caring to others who venture onto this site.

i wish id had you 9 years ago when i was dfd.

Threestars

Your story was heart-wrenching and yes, it would be almost unbelievable to a never-before JW, but to those of us here it is all too horribly familiar. I grew up in the "truth" ( I can't stand to say that word in regards to the dubs), dropped out for years before being DFed. (My Father called an elder's meeting on me actually hoping I would come to my senses) but before I was actually DFed I wasn't allowed to stand up with my sister as a bridesmaid at her Kindom Hall wedding. That hurt so badly but nothing like what you went through. I cannot even imagine them doing something so horrible, even those poor misguided, arrogant self-righteous fools--that was just TOO cruel. I hope you find solace in these boards but you have come a long way already in that you have forgiven so many of them. That is the key--the only way to avoid the bitterness that plagues so many of us. Peace to you.

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What nicknames were you given when you were a J/W by schoolmates/workmates?

by pobthespazz in

especially if you were raised as a dub like me, well i was called a muslim, holy joe, a jahoodsoon, all seems funny now but torture when you was the only dub in the whole school.

Threestars

"Junkajehovah" In retrospect--that name has quite a lot of nice alliteration.

The main way my classmates liked to torment me though was by asking me what presents I had gotten for Christmas and what I was going to be for Halloween.

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Shunned by the congregation for not performing

by truthseeker in

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as many of you know, i am a witness who still attends for the sake of my wife.

my meeting attendance has dropped to about 50% and i make maybe 1 hour a month in field service, although i report more than this to keep the elder's off my back.. after several months of this, the result has been noticeable.. those who used to be friendly and greet me no longer do so.

some even avoid me.

Threestars

I feel so sorry for you. It's just they way they are, though. "Marking" is just a step before reproof and disfellowshipping but it has more or less the same effect--people are afraid to talk to you. If you were raised in the org then you know all this but when it happens to you it is SO painful. I was raised in it too but I was never considered really "good association" since I was way too quiet and shy, didn't comment at the meetings unless I was forced to, and dropped out of the ministry school as a teen. Plus I painted depressing and possibly demonized pictures and wrote untheocratic poetry. I did pioneer one month because my Dad put so much pressure on me, and yes, the difference was amazing. I was suddenly more popular. Then, the presiding elder discovered that about 5 months before I had not turned in any time for field service that month so he came over and told my Dad and me that I was going to have to be dropped from the Pioneer list. They both said "well, you can still put in the hours". Yeah, right. Anyway, my heart goes out to you. Hang in there.

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Barf Alert! - Governing Body 'believes we are in the time of the end'

by drew sagan in

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well looks like the governing body is getting 2007 off to a great start.

here is a little audio clip that somebody pointed out to me: .

click here to watch 'jw-governing-body---time-of-the-end'.

Threestars

They need to come up with a new hook like the "last generation" thing that fizzled out finally at the end of the millennium. In the meantime I am just shaking my head at their silliness and audacity.

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How to get DFed

by Threestars in

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i read something hilarious a few years ago at one of these forums.

go to an assembly...stand up and horse around during the session until the ushers take notice.

when they hold up those little signs they have saying something like "please take your seat" hold up your own sign that says, "please kiss my ass".

Threestars

I read something hilarious a few years ago at one of these forums. Go to an assembly...stand up and horse around during the session until the ushers take notice. When they hold up those little signs they have saying something like "PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEAT" hold up your own sign that says, "PLEASE KISS MY ASS". hahahahahahah

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NEARLY 17 YEAR OLD BOY IS MINISTERIAL SERVANT

by minimus in

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things must be getting pretty desperate.

i just heard some wonderful news of another boy being appointed a ministerial servant.

the comment was that even though he is young, he is very mature.another person, speaking of a different boy being appointed said that he had the added advantage of being home schooled and that really helped him to mature.

Threestars

My JW sister called me a while back to gripe about her goof-off inactive husband. She told me that their 17 year-old son was now her "spiritual head". This is patriarchal mind control in its most archaic form. Why don't these idiotic women wake up?

Edited by - threestars on 10 July 2002 2:54:56

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TED JARACZ

by minimus in

why does everybody in the know speak so negatively of jaracz?

Threestars

Oh yes, I remember those prayers. I think he was the one giving a closing prayer one time at a circuit assembly. It went on and on and on and my poor little brother was standing right behind a kid who was standing up on his chair and who blew a giant fart about six inches from my brother's face. My brother started crying and I got a horrible case of the giggles. My Dad thumped both of us after the prayer was over. I'm SURE that was Jaracz.

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TED JARACZ

by minimus in

why does everybody in the know speak so negatively of jaracz?

Threestars

I remember him. When I was a little kid he was our congregation's district "servant". I read in R Franz' book he's at headquarters now. What's up with him?

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New book pisses active Witnesses off!

by Intuit39 in

my sister just called me at work to let me know that her husband (until recently, unsympathetic to her doubts) is thoroughly confused and pissed off by the new 'worship' book!.

he has been comparing it with the 'united' book, has noted the obvious differences (3 missing chapters), and has begun examining it word for word...now he is raving looney about it.. to top it off, they were at bethel within the last few days, somehow ended up in brother larson's personal office, and were astonished to find a model spanish galleon replete with huge crosses, and a huge portrait of good ol' max towering over the watchtower itself.

she said her husband thought it looked like a propaganda poster for 'big brother'..... finally!

Threestars

SpiderMonkey: excuse me for hijacking this thread about the new, er, well new OLD book, but just what exactly was the old fool's problem with your comic book collection? That is so sad.