Posts by prologos

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WTBTS "Anointed" Resurrection Fallacy

by The Searcher in

based on the following statements of the wtbts, the first resurrection began in 1918, is ongoing, and ceases when the living anointed are taken to heaven - just before armageddon..

(w88 10/15 p. 12 par.

13) "....according to all the evidence, those of the anointed who had already died faithful began to be resurrected to their promised place in the heavenly sanctuary starting in 1918.".

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TS:"--(w14 2/15 p. 10 par. 12) "Sometime after the destruction of Babylon the Great, Jesus will gather to himself all the remaining members of the bride class. Before the outbreak of the war of Armageddon, therefore, all members of the "bride" will be in heaven."
(The first resurrection - according to the Brooklyn hierarchy - will be completed beforeArmageddon commences)

And this is the Achilles Heel of current wt doctrine. "all the things" that Jesus predicted are supposed to occur before the generation passes. If the anointed remnant is called to heaven, passes upward, to be there to fight at Armageddon, how can it be said the anointed generation will not pass? Surely, Jesus predicted Armageddon as part of "all these things"?, the end? --- and the generation, anointed and overlapping, will have passed at least once before that. eat your hat.

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A stunning piece of LOGIC from the Apostle Paul

by nicolaou in

1st corinthians 15 12-17. but if it is preached that christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even christ has been raised.

and if christ has not been raised, your faith is futile... .

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F: :--faith in the resurrection -not of Jesus- but of everybody else.

If the debacle of the 194 heavenly activity of the spirit-resurrected Jesus, that is currently studied at the K-Hall, and the help that the everybody else resurrection (anointed dead) provided since 1918 , is any indication,-- it all never happened. The mess of wt history is the proof , it never happened. Now, why are we worried about the resurrection?, it was the perfect death, that supposedly is the panacea. -- or?

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Sychelles Island crash proved you can't land a plane on water!

by Witness 007 in

i was an advocate of the idea that a sea landing is beyond impossible for any pilot.

some years ago terrorists hijack a plane in africa and demand to be flown to australia.

the pilot runs out of fuel at the sychelles islands and ditches in the sea with most passengers dead or drowned.

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libh: "The pilot of both these airplanes were a testament to their good training and great skill

A tribute: If you ever saw Bob Hoover, who just died at 94, and you can see it on youtube, he turned off his two engines, then did rolls, loops, landed on one wheel , then the on the other, you will appreciate how safe flying at the edge can be, and how close the best of us can come to be at one with the universe.

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ExoMars Arrival - Schiaparelli

by TheWonderofYou in

16 october: separation of schiaparelli from tgo at 14:42 gmt / 16:42 cest 17 october: tgo orbit-raising manoeuvre at 02:42 gmt / 04:42 cest19 october: tgo mars orbit insertion and schiaparelli entry, descent and landing on mars (atmospheric entry expected 14:42 gmt / 16:42 cest, landing 14:48 gmt / 16:48 cest).

https://livestream.com/esa.

https://www.facebook.com/europeanspaceagency/.

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so, it was the software programs not talking to each other softly. landing altitude radar not understood by braking rocket control ; --babel language confusion still at work?

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Quebec coroner investigating death of another Jehovah's Witness after childbirth

by OrphanCrow in

quebec coroner investigating death of another jehovah's witness after childbirth.

by stephen smith, cbc news posted: oct 26, 2016 6:39 pm et.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-coroner-investigates-death-of-another-jehovahs-witness-1.3822768.

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Will be good to have all the details published so we all can learn. The obitiary by the funeral parlor, magnuspoirier.com lists 6 children as left behinds instead of the 2 elsewhere.

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A stunning piece of LOGIC from the Apostle Paul

by nicolaou in

1st corinthians 15 12-17. but if it is preached that christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even christ has been raised.

and if christ has not been raised, your faith is futile... .

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when Jesus (or his historians) compared his end of life experience with Jonah's gastly gastric 3+1/2 days, he must have been testing whether his listeners were credulous enough to swallow the whole bit, hook line and sinker.

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A stunning piece of LOGIC from the Apostle Paul

by nicolaou in

1st corinthians 15 12-17. but if it is preached that christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even christ has been raised.

and if christ has not been raised, your faith is futile... .

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Paul "--- if Christ is not risen your faith is in vain.

At least he put that caveat in writing, wt would be as honest if they'd put all the improbable conditions required for them teaching "the truth" up front in their literature. like:

If Christ has risen in his kingdom, (or sat down)?, in 1914, the overlapping generation must be in full swing now--/

At least the resurrection stories after Pentecost were more practical, You are a good knitter, Dorcas, come back. or, You sleep at the meetings, Eutychus, ok, they are boring, you qualify.

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Is Christianity contingent on belief in a talking snake?

by cobweb in

jw
friends

this is a question mainly for those who are christian as i myself am not:.

to what extent is christianity contingent on a belief in the book of genesis.

i know there are some christians who accept that the creation story is a myth, and maybe the adam and eve story too.

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If "the greatest teacher" , "the greatest man that ever lived", and died, is reported to have personally endorsed, quoted the Adam & Eve account, the flood, how can wt be wrong in following these teachings of Christianity? . Now, if any element of the story can be proven to be untrue, then you not only have a bad story, but an absolutely flawed world view.

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Manufactured conflict and the media

by Coded Logic in

manufactured outrage.

false equivalence.

every issues has "two sides".

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you can always try different ones and stick with BBC, people in Europe did, in EE2.

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Cult expert on Jehovah's Witnesses and Blood

by Lee Elder in

cult expert steven hassan analyzes the death of young canadian jw mother: https://freedomofmind.com/…/2016/10/21/a-watchtower-tragedy/.

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Steve Hassan: "--unnecessary loss of life- all due to misunderstanding Jewish Kashrut law.--

and the bible story: The talking snake prevailed. The first innocent victims (Cain & Abel), then try to make amends by trial sacrifices, god indicates he likes bloody meat (that can not be eaten yet ). so, it becomes a pattern, Abraham even preparing to kill his son. then: the perfect sacrifice (Jesus). turning water into wine and blood into wine (symbolically), but even then, according to wt, the blood monopoly for god has to be maintained. at all cost, even at the cost of further human sacrifices. faith better than Abraham's,-- or worse?, all based on a talking snake story.?