my question is, should people with recognized conditions like that be allowed to teach in the congregation, take the bread and wine?
prologos
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Marking talk ,inappropriate touching and Lies
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i heard one "marking" talk about 5 years ago.
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Shouldn't Society Practise What They Preach??????
by newsheep inseriously, i don't own a zambonee, swimming pool, basketball courts, tennis courts, work out gym, vollyball sand pit, horse shoe pit, orchards, sauna, maple syrup/apple cider processing room and now a golf course.
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funnier would be ice dancing, pairs (mixed).
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Shouldn't Society Practise What They Preach??????
by newsheep inseriously, i don't own a zambonee, swimming pool, basketball courts, tennis courts, work out gym, vollyball sand pit, horse shoe pit, orchards, sauna, maple syrup/apple cider processing room and now a golf course.
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WHL: brooklyn bean counters vs. patterson partakers* vs Wallkill Kingdom warriors
* see wt definition.
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Revelation 19:1 omitted from NWT index?
by DATA-DOG ini am just curious about something.
the term great crowd of other sheep does not exist in the scriptures.
while looking into the great crowd of revelation i noticed that revelation 19:1 is not included in the index under the term great crowd.
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my take, speculation is that the Great Crowd in Rev.7 is the same as the 12 tribes of Rev 7:1-8, OUT of which the 12x12 000 are sealed.
But they are a CROWD, because coming OUT of the Great tribulation, the place is in mess, disorganized.
the order of events is: those that are bought FROM among mankind are sealed to be firstfruits and go where jesus went, then the 4 winds strike and the 12 tribes , now minus the 144 000 come out of the GT as a crowd rather then classed by the angels into 12 divisions. Thw 12 tribes come up again later when each have to find their respective gates in the New Jerusalem to get at the trees of life inside the city.
Way back in the late 50s there was a series of articles in the wt explaining that the 12 tribes were spiritual and had specific characteristics each. The 12 tribes were understood to be earthly. figure.
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Revelation 19:1 omitted from NWT index?
by DATA-DOG ini am just curious about something.
the term great crowd of other sheep does not exist in the scriptures.
while looking into the great crowd of revelation i noticed that revelation 19:1 is not included in the index under the term great crowd.
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searchers: that is a very important point again. that the OS are the non-jewish Christians, and that the term "Great Crowd of OS" is wrong. thats where wt went wrong.
In this confusion about heaven or earth standing of the Great Crowd of Rev. 7, can anybody adress the meaning of verses 15-17 that seem to resonate with Rev 21:3,4 with the tent (protection) of god spread over them, God with mankind etc? If you are in heaven you would not have to be sheltered from adversity?
thank you.
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The moon tonight.
by Defianttruth ini was in my yard tonight with telescope watching jupiter.
jupiter is as close to the moon as it will be in the next 13 years.
to my surprise, the moon had a corona which is pretty rare for where i am standing.
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ohiocowboy in texas: envy you with clear sky. did you know that the moon is highest (december) when the sun is lowest? end is lowest when the sun is highest (June) just as you said:"directly above us-"
talesin: "dont get too scientific" true, but understanding inspires its own awe and wonder, love in the laws.
A sister a long time ago pointed out a bright star to me (not in her eyes) I said th her: "thats not a star thats a planet" that was the intended end of that story.
EP: I apod every day.
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Most Current Teaching?
by NeverKnew inare abraham, isaac and jacob returning to earth or heaven?.
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just steering around the parables, another WT quote is " --we (FDS) do not know of any scripture that would require Abraham to take the emblems--" Blondi could find it I am sure. based on their belief that wine and crackers mean heaven. like catholics believe that you have to have comunion the last onction to stay away from the hot place. and meet peter with the keys.
In an ordered universe its extraordinary that the creator would not supply simple clear doctrin basis. it can not come from him, unless he wants to sow discord like is reported in the story of the other, older B******* tower.
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Most Current Teaching?
by NeverKnew inare abraham, isaac and jacob returning to earth or heaven?.
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they use Math. 11:11 to draw the line for heaven with john the baptist. and Acts 2:34 "-- David did not ascend--"
but if the bible had one author, there would be no ambiguity.
Lore BTW; the ransom merely returns "perfection" gods favor, buys back what was lost (in eden). --"annointed" in the WT sense means called to reign with Crist. that is the domain of the KINGDOM COVENANT, not the ransom new covenant. Those that have perfection imputed by virtue of the ransom, can then SACRIFICE* that restored RIGHT to everlasting life ON EARTH to be uplifted. REVelation book page 100 paragraph 4.
These ideas are hidden in their publication and untangle somewhat the mystery of the "annointed". but
if you dont believe in talking snakes, donkeys, spare-rib cloned ladies, walking on water, all this is raelly only showing how wrong this all is.
no currency in the current teaching. * jesus sarificed his right to continue everlastingly ON THE EARTH. the second Adam
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Are there any Gilead or MTS graduates on this site? What helped you to see the light and leave?
by matt2414 ini was a faithful witness for years, even graduating from the ministerial training school.
so much of what i learned at the school has already changed.
if that was food at the proper time and, according to the latest teachings of the governing body, is now all wrong -- basically lies -- was it really spritual food from god?
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I second cedars observation, that the doubt has to come from the self first, rather than an awakening from an out side event. never went beyond elder classes (1month) but knew in the 60s that the doctrinal house of cards had fatal flaws.
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JEHOVAH NEEDS YOUR MONEY FOR 2014!!!!!!!!
by DATA-DOG inhas anyone else recieved the letter from the gb about international conventions in 2014?
according to the letter the missionarys/order of full time servants desperately need to get to the conventions in their homeland.
so to accomplish this, jehovah needs 15 cents per publisher, per congregation for some months ( sorry i can't remember the exact length of time ).
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AdeA your comments are true. Many of these people developped a sense of entitlement. they were complaining when not receiving first class treatment or travel. vows of poverty? they live better than most publishers. Preaching is supposed be the ticket to salvation? how about getting paid for it? rewards already? of course there are needy cases, like missionaries from 3rd world countries. But most citizens of the developed world are entitled to their old age pensions, benefits, since they by virtue of belonging to "the order---" maintain their homeland adress, and status. But the 15 cents get everyone involved and feel good.
point is these are the true warriors and benefitiaries of the ORG.-- working just as hard as any that put in their best time and do honest work to boot.