i have not followed very many threads of late, so if someone has already made the same observations i'm about to make, i apologize for my redundancy.. .
i admit it: i'm part of a highly secretive, highly elite group.
(we have to drink two quarts of fresh yak blood and get a tattoo of a pentagram on our butts as part of of the initiation.
Two sports analogies:
This thread has the rhythm of a defensive ping-pong match featuring no slams, just returns. Not only are the two combatants relentless, but there are almost no neutral onlookers. Agendas are transparent and historical.
In real football(NFL) if a game is tied after four quarters, the teams go in a "Sudden Death". Simon, while you're tinkering with the format, could you include this as a new feature? Just don't bring in "Instant Replay"!
TMS
i have not followed very many threads of late, so if someone has already made the same observations i'm about to make, i apologize for my redundancy.. .
i admit it: i'm part of a highly secretive, highly elite group.
(we have to drink two quarts of fresh yak blood and get a tattoo of a pentagram on our butts as part of of the initiation.
Words from the Englishman:
"I thought of him as some sort of Father figure with all that admonishment stuff that he does! Does he drive a Morris Minor 1000?"
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Talk about "screwed up" reasoning!(Keeping Thread Theme Alive)
Yes, I remember all those POS English cars: the Hillman, Cortina, Morris Minor, Anglia. . . .
TeeJay drives a White Ford Bronco, thank you very much!
His cousin drives a Hundai Excel capable of 105 MPH. No sissy cricket mallets in either trunk!
Man, Uncle Bruce, you are something else! Bet you're a riot in the pub after a few pints!
yours with a few screws loose,
TMS
is it not somewhat ironic that three embarassing, contradictory policy decisions involve the use of cards?.
these matters are all fully detailed and documented in current posts and in the archives.. 1. the mexican cartilla.
2. the political card in malawi.
Is it not somewhat ironic that three embarassing, contradictory policy decisions involve the use of cards?
These matters are all fully detailed and documented in current posts and in the archives.
1. The Mexican cartilla
2. The political card in Malawi
3. The U.N. library card
TMS
this is just a few thoughts that i have regarding the subject of anonimity.
yes, i am making this post after being in the chat room with several others including kent and prisca.
it seemed to me that kent posted prisca's pic mainly out of sheer mischievousness and was quite taken aback at her very real distress at having her identity exposed.
If someone lurking from the Service Department will simply read my 162 posts to this forum, taking careful note of geographical locations, time-frame, "privileges of service", et al., they will be able to identify this evil apostate.
TMS, or is it TeeEmEs?
"...it does not take deliberate lies to develop mistaken beliefs.
at times, we just misread things.
how many people have met untimely deaths doing something they believed was right?
"When I look back on all the crap I learned in High School,
its a wonder I can think at all.
But my lack of education hasn't hurt me none.
I can read the writing on the wall."
Paul Simon, "Kodachrome"
"The teachers who taught me weren't cool, putting me down, turning
me 'round, filling me up with their rules."
John Lennon, "Getting Better"
TMS
now, that got your attention didn't it!
this if for max to raise a chuckle i hope.. apostate tricksters,.
i was simmering in my jacuzzi recently, shading my kindly eyes with a copy of the isaiahs prophecy book, which incidentally is steam-proof , when don adams slid under my door and stood up with a lightening-like motion that startled me verily.
Hillary.
Thank you.
I do not know Teddy J, personally. Many sources in this newsgroup paint him as the kind of ego-tripping power monger I always fought against in my 50 year "Theocratic" career.
While such personalities could never exist in a truly "God-ruled" organization, they are everyday in corporations, including WTBS.
TMS
....he'd be saying "waaaeeell, boutros boutros ghali.
i'll say; don't this ngo thang jist take the cake?!
!
SixofNine:
This is a wonderful thread. Sheriff Taylor would have been a superb elder. . . . commonsensical, not high on protocol, seeing people for what they really are, not their veneer. He would have brushed aside Talmudlike rules as so much poppycock, just as he dismissed Barney's booktaught notions of law enforcement.
86% of the Opies wouldn't have necessarily forsaken their core beliefs with the kind of nurturing and room-to-grow Taylor allowed.
Wistfully thinking about what could-have-been, should-have-been.
TMS
it is not a new revelation to see the striking and overwhelming parallels between the wts, its modus operandi and the legalistic leanings of the rabbis of ancient israel.
these interpreters of the law, developed rabbinical prisons enclosed by walls of complex rules and regulations by which they held power over their adherents.
note how the wts explains their actions :the decisions of the rabbis quoted in the mishnah would affect the day-to-day lives of jews everywhere.
Hillary:
Many excellent points! The irony for me is that the WTBS creates a Talmudlike prison for their adherents as well as a self-imposed stifling workload for themselves. The hundreds of rulings they must make on blood components, so-called neutrality issues, sexual practices, etc. make any real spiritual shepherding impossible. None of this makes anyone more Christlike.
TMS
the recent "uncovering" of the watchtower's complicity with the united nations calls for prompt phinehas-like action to "keep jehovah's organization clean".
an investigative committee should be formed to determine "who knew and when did they know it?
" a judicial hearing should follow for those governing body members who "signed on" to this impure alliance.. the current governing body of jehovah's witnesses should resign immediately as they are no longer "examples to the flock"(1 pet.
I hadn't really "bought into" all the corporate moves as more than window dressing, but then I'm not a Watchtower insider.
My intended point was simply that any normal JW would face disciplinary action if involved in a similar association. Regardless of the current load of responsibility these men have, they are still "elders of the flock". By their own standards, they no longer qualify.
By Watchtower standards they should face disciplinary action up to and including disfellowshipping. If some show genuine heartfelt repentence, then "public reproof" with full restrictions would be a viable alternative.
TMS
the recent "uncovering" of the watchtower's complicity with the united nations calls for prompt phinehas-like action to "keep jehovah's organization clean".
an investigative committee should be formed to determine "who knew and when did they know it?
" a judicial hearing should follow for those governing body members who "signed on" to this impure alliance.. the current governing body of jehovah's witnesses should resign immediately as they are no longer "examples to the flock"(1 pet.
The recent "uncovering" of the Watchtower's complicity with the United Nations calls for prompt Phinehas-like action to "keep Jehovah's organization clean". An investigative committee should be formed to determine "who knew and when did they know it?" A judicial hearing should follow for those governing body members who "signed on" to this impure alliance.
The current governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses should resign immediately as they are no longer "examples to the flock"(1 Pet. 5:3) and should willingly accept the "heavier judgement" appropriate for those who "become teachers".(James 3:1) It would not be appropriate for these brothers to handle any congregation responsibilities for a time.
Responsible brothers in the Writing Department should begin work on a talk dealing with spiritual fornication to be given in all the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses as "reproof before all onlookers". This talk should plainly denounce the conduct described by Jesus: "They bind up heavy loads and put them upon the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger." (Matt. 23:4)
These are just a few scattered thoughts. Perhaps others will want to detail other appropriate measures to remove this scourge, this spiritual cancer from Jehovah's name people.
TMS
