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  Witnessing =Dirty Householders/bible studies yuck remember??

  by Witness 007 in

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  we had a bible study women who collected all the qaurter left bottles of coke and would "recycle" them into one bottle.

  a couple we studied with would give us coffee with lipstick on the cup after removing the cigrette buts and a quick rinse!

  a study gave me a glass of water which was brownish looking....tasted awful.

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  I used to hold my newborn while sitting in a recliner near an open window as my wife "studied" with Brenda H. Brenda's three preschoolers were not potty trained. Excrement was smeared on the walls. Super roaches battled for food items, sometimes in a tug of war over a large morsel.

  One week my recliner was thrown out into the yard. Brenda explained that it had a rat's nest in it.

  I tended to my son in the car after that during Brenda's studies.

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  ps: My wife was always big on teaching some of these folks how to clean, especially if they were advancing in their study. One young lady had inherited a wreck of a house from her grandmother. Grandma dipped and chewed and lived in filth for seventy-five years. My wife volunteered our services to bring the house to livibility, if possible. Several weekends we cleaned, painted, made minor repairs. We made a bonfire of most of the furniture and helped the lady find good, clean, used furniture in the antique and second-hand stores.
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  duh! just realized

  by TMS in

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  that "tomorrow night" recorded by bob dylan was originally done by elvis presley in 1954. the '54 suns studios version and the overdubbed '65 version are both on youtube.. tms.

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  that "Tomorrow Night" recorded by Bob Dylan was originally done by Elvis Presley in 1954. The '54 Suns Studios version and the overdubbed '65 version are both on YouTube.

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  The List by Prominent Bethelite

  by TMS in

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  this list of failed watchtower predictions came out when i was still a believer.

  "prominent bethelite" had a caustic personality as we still believing jw's tried to engage him.

  but his research was/is impeccable.. each quote from the watchtower publications is followed by the specific source in brackets.

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  This list of failed Watchtower predictions came out when I was still a believer. "Prominent Bethelite" had a caustic personality as we still believing JW's tried to engage him. But his research was/is impeccable.

  Each quote from the Watchtower publications is followed by the specific source in brackets. The volume of silly Watchtower predictions over the years is staggering. Few current JW's are aware of any of these.

  http://www.freeminds.org/history/list.htm

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  Big News! 2009 District Conventions moved OUT OF STATE!

  by sacolton in

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  my jw wife told me today that the 2009 oklahoma district conventions will not be held in our state.

  the tulsa area will have to go to fort smith, arkansas and the central oklahoma area will have to go to witchia, kansas!

  wow!

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  Watchtower biggies are extremely proud of their hard-nosed no-compromise convention negotiations with city administrators, convention hall managers, etc. They use the leverage of megadollars flowing to the community via JW hotel, restaurant and fuel purchases to gain sweatheart deals concerning concessions, rent, parking, etc.

  If a community refuses to "play ball", they can just watch Watchtower's business go elsewhere. I've seen these same "smart" business practices elsewhere in the big, bad business world. WalMart and other huge retail outlets treat their suppliers the same way, leveraging, badgering and tricking them into bare bones deals.

  There have been years when no conventions were held in Arkansas despite the existence of several fine facilities. The brothers were simply teaching Pine Bluff or Little Rock a lesson. Arkansas JW's could just travel to Oklahoma or Tennessee.

  I've often thought of how simple it would be to videotape district assembly programs and show them on a screen at the local Kingdom Hall. Would not that actually "simplify" things, save gas and make the spiritual banquet available to all regardless of their means, disabilities and transportation?

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  Why are Arkansas men

  by John Doe in

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  exponentially smarter and sexier than the general population of the us?

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  Billy bob thornton is arkansan? Funny, he doesn't LOOK arkansan;)

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  Not sure what that means, Satanas. But if you can't wrap yourself around Billy Bob's Arkansas heritage think of Fred Graham, the softspoken legal commentator. He's typical of many articulate, unassuming Arkies I've met. Not as charismatic as Johnny Cash, Charlie Rich or Glen Campbell or as driven as the Waltons, Dillards or Tysons, but not to be overlooked. Every state has its own list and Arkansas as a very small state population-wise is not underrepresented.

  In political circles most young people think of Bill Clinton, but he is much the political lightweight in Arkansas political history. Senator J.William Fullbright(yes, the Fullbright Scholarship originator), took courageous stands on several issues. He was the ONLY U.S. Senator to vote against Joseph McCarthy's roughshod anti-Communist vendetta in the 50's. Fullbright was also one of only 2 senators to vote against the Gulf of Tonkin resolution escalating the Vietnam War. Its not well known outside the state, but most Arkansans considered Senator Dale Bumpers much more presidential than Clinton ever was. Bumpers was willing to serve but not willing to go through the garbage to be elected. You may recall that during Clinton's impeachment woes, Bumpers although retired, asked to address the full senate. He was greeted with a standing ovation, such was their respect for the man. He argued eloquently, not in defense of Clinton, but for the preservation of the presidency and was a key figure in averting impeachment.

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  Why are Arkansas men

  by John Doe in

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  exponentially smarter and sexier than the general population of the us?

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  It's easy to underestimate Arkansans. I grew up near Seattle but spent thirty years in Arkansas. Many Arkies are genteel, civil, articulate . . . . with an accent. Think Billy Bob Thornton, an Arkansan. It's not a culture where one shouts out their accomplishments as many know-it-all-Yankees are known to do. I don't say that as a regional slur, just an observation about the differences.

  Although Bubba is the cliched symbol of the Arkansas man, that excludes many strong black men who have shrugged off the shackles of their environment and made something of themselves. They are Arkansans, too.

  Of course, all of this talk is so silly. The city-states still control the culture. Little Rock is in the Dallas orbit. Fort Smith is in the Tulsa orbit. Eastern Arkansas is in the Memphis orbit.

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  Are you a failure?

  by John Doe in

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  why or why not?.

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  An abysmal failure on many levels. I couldn't punch myself out of the wet paper bag of JW mind control for over half a century. The talents I had and opportunities that came my way were wasted with the self-righteous smugness of "seeking first the kingdom". I passed the JW virus on to a son, who at 36 is just now recovering.

  If you think I'm just lamenting missed financial opportunities, you would be wrong. That kind of success can greatly depend on which part of Earth you are born on. I regret allowing a phony religious cult to control every aspect of my life.

  No, I'm not suicidal. Why would I voluntarily relinquish the few years I have left to live life not under Watchtower control?

  Failure? Look it up in a good reference work. You'll see my picture.

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  Goodbye to JWD ... hello to JWN !

  by Simon in

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  as i announced some time ago, jwd as it is will not continue .... ... but .... it's clear from people's comments that they do like the site and many would like it or something else like it to continue.. one issue was the forum software that was self-developed and not really in a good state to hand-over to anyone but i've been working on that and can now reveal the first release of what will probably be called jwn (son of jwd):.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/.

  it is still work-in-progress so not all features are enabled yet but it will allow you to browse the site in a similar way to this one and it is pointing at the same database (although because of the way the caching works, new posts made on this site won't appear immediately).

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  doesn't work for me

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  The Sigh Thread

  by Farkel in

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  sigh.

  i'm tired, folks.

  worn out, actually.

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  Englebutt Farkledink, lounge singer to a generation of ex-jw's
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  The Shot Heard 'Round The World

  by TMS in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ttgo8cwum.

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  My wife was just as fanatical a Razorback fan as I was in the 70's, 80's. She would discreetly exit meetings to tune in to the car radio. On her return, elders would whisper "What's the score?"

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