Posts by TMS

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WT rule #1: Never miss an opportunity to make a fool of yourself

by Nathan Natas in

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as serious students of the holy scriptures, we all know what a great role the history of korea has played in the outworking of the divine purpose.. (you realize i'm pulling your leg, right?

tell me when to stop...).

this being the obvious and incontrovertible truthtm, we can expect that in the not-too-distant future the wtb&ts will announce that north korea is the "king of the north" and that kingdom of antarctica is the "king of the south.

TMS

Hopefully, therevealer, you're not doubting the "slave"? Frequently, the Great Jehovah uses a modern-day Cyrus to unwittingly aid his chosen ones. The evil Canadian empire is no exception. Even the "image of the wild beast" proves to be a mere tool in the hands of our heavenly father as he works his NGO magic in behalf of the sheepfold. You should be more worried about the "King of the South", Mexico where corruption is the norm. Our brothers there work very hard for just a few pesos, sometimes just enough to pay government authorities the "morbida" or bribe in lieu of military service.

with you in kingdom service,

tms

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WT rule #1: Never miss an opportunity to make a fool of yourself

by Nathan Natas in

jw
friends

as serious students of the holy scriptures, we all know what a great role the history of korea has played in the outworking of the divine purpose.. (you realize i'm pulling your leg, right?

tell me when to stop...).

this being the obvious and incontrovertible truthtm, we can expect that in the not-too-distant future the wtb&ts will announce that north korea is the "king of the north" and that kingdom of antarctica is the "king of the south.

TMS

I'm a bit rusty on new light but here goes:

Canada is the new "King of the North", certainly north of the New Jerusalem, that is Patterson, N.Y. Canadians are known for being warlike, militaristic, atheistic. So it fits.

The new "King of the South" is Mexico, now engaged in a "pushing" with the K of the N. Think Zetas and Cartel del Golfo.

Nathan, you don't get the publisher's Wt, do you?

tms

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DOUBTFULLY YOURS to debate JUNK YARD DOG! It's ON, Baby!

by Nathan Natas in

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i didn't want you to be able to say you missed this, hence a new thread.. from jyd's thread about how he utter demolished a group of 30 jws out in field circus and had elders running to hide behind sister's skirts:.

doubtfully yours, since you're obviously so spiritually strong, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and engage junk yard dog in a debate?

you ought to be able to defeat him handily, since you have your spiritual suit of armor and jehovah's magic spirit is upon you.. in fact, i double-dog dare you!

TMS

You guys are murmuring like a bunch of Israelites in the wilderness. Patience, my brothers! Doubtfully will undoubtedly show. Do you realize how hard it is to round up 30 JW's on a Sunday during football season?

tms

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DOUBTFULLY YOURS to debate JUNK YARD DOG! It's ON, Baby!

by Nathan Natas in

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friends

i didn't want you to be able to say you missed this, hence a new thread.. from jyd's thread about how he utter demolished a group of 30 jws out in field circus and had elders running to hide behind sister's skirts:.

doubtfully yours, since you're obviously so spiritually strong, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and engage junk yard dog in a debate?

you ought to be able to defeat him handily, since you have your spiritual suit of armor and jehovah's magic spirit is upon you.. in fact, i double-dog dare you!

TMS

It should be a semi-fair fight. Doubtfully has the backing of the gawd of the universe but he must be careful to display the fruitage of the spirit lest he bring reproach upon his deity. Junk Yard can fight no holds barred but he has no theocratic backing. Lucifer was going to be in his corner but he's passed out drunk in a whore house.

May the best man win!

tms

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I destroyed @30 jw's today in field service

by JunkYardDog in

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2 wt zombies came to my door today.

and i opened a can of woop a$$ on them.. i did the whole history of wt false prophecies on them and asked them to show me the gospel of 1914?

they couldn't and i followed them up and down the street proclaiming they were false teachers and couldn't talk their way out of a paper bag with a knowledgeable apostate.

TMS

The story was embellished much like a convention experience.

tms

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I'm not that important to Jehovah? Well, damn. Now I see the WBTS stance.

by easyreader1970 in

last night during the bible highlights, the brother (an insane and extreme zealot of an elder) said that people cannot expect jehovah to communicate with his servants directly anymore.

not because it wasn't part of his plan, nor because he has the all powerful and all knowing governing body in place, but because we really just aren't that important.

not important enough to warrant one one one communication.

TMS

God is sometimes referred to as a father. Does a normal, balanced father insist on worship from his children? Or is he content when his children lead productive, meaningful lives and are happy? Occasionally, religious or political despots have acted Jehovah-like causing much suffering.

Of course, if a human father sat idly by watching his children die in a tsunami wave, many courts would consider this akin to child endangerment or gross negligence. If a human father testified that he allowed his children to suffer because he was protecting his own name and reputation he would certainly not be respected as a father.

Additionally, a self-confident, omnipotent, omnicient being does not need to be told how great he is. If he is a creator, the success, beauty, power, intelligence and well-being of his creation proves it.

tms

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Back from New Orleans, ready for DF announcement!

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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[click here for a little history...].

mission accomplished!

my wife and i held off the announcement and were able to attend my bil's wedding & reception this past weekend.

TMS

SBC,

Several aspects of your handling of this stand out:

You kept your poise. Our emotions can get the best of us when we are being maligned. Of course, seeing the elder tribunal as made up of frail, misguided, but well-meaning humans helped.

You were in control. Knowledge is power and you did not waste your understanding of Watchtower procedure.

You were unselfish. It amazes me that you were more concerned about using a the proceedings as a vehicle to enlighten others than in your own self-defense.

Your father's reaction saddens me. I was in his shoes seventeen years ago when my son was df'd. Without hesitating, thinking or even consulting my wife, I said: "Son, why don't you come back home?" That began our unraveling as JW's. We're still healing. I can't help but think that the character and consideration you've displayed in this whole affair came from somewhere. I have hope for your father's thawing.

tms

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The real story on why The Watchtower society lost a Kingdom hall in Bonham ,Texas.!

by koolaid-man in

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what happened in bonham, texas?

: the body of elders and the majority of the congregation decided to leave the watch tower organization.

and with that, they took the kingdom hall.

TMS

The newspaper article got the lawyer's name wrong. It was David Bercot, now a noted author of books about early Christianity. He has a website and can be reached via email. Bercot is also a lawyer specializing in Texas title searches. He is a former JW.

tms

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JW's humble?

by donny in

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during my trek through the jw's i often heard talks and comments stating how witnesses were humble and meek, unlike the haughty-title loving people of the world especially christendom.

well i just received my 2010 alumni directory that covers everyone who graduated from the two high schools that were part of the district i live in.. so i spent the afternoon parusing its pages when i came across a listing for a guy who is now an elder in the congregation i used to attend.

here is how he describes himself.

TMS

Of course, there are many humble folk among Jehovah's Witnesses, usually not those with organizational responsibilities. JW teachings actually work against humility. JWs are taught that among earth's billions they alone will survive God's selective destruction at Armageddon. JWs are taught that they alone have the "truth." They have that truth because their hearts were somehow more receptive to it than the typical non-believer. Other subtle messages indicate superiority: Their organization builds halls faster, feeds large groups faster and more efficiently, translates Scripture better, responds to natural disasters more quickly and efficiently, etc.

Becoming an ex-JW is a humbling experience. How could you have been duped by such an obviously man-made religious cult, wasting decades of your life chasing an illusion, not preparing properly for retirement or seeing to it that your children received an education? Think back to all of the counselors, teachers, householders, fellow employees, neighbors and relatives who KNEW you were brainwashed but couldn't reach you. That is humbling.

tms

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Generation teaching. What is it about witnesses that they don't see this for what it is?

by garyneal in

i cannot for the life of me understand why jehovah's witnesses don't see right through the b.s.

regarding their overlapping generation being equal to one generation.

also, i am a bit perplexed at how little certain jehovah's witnesses know their own doctrine.. take my wife, for instance:.

TMS

Highlander:

I'm kind of torn between the view of TMS and that of Outlaw. Perhaps those that are predisposed to questioning and independent thinking will have their exit journey accelerated due to the latest generation flop. On the other hand, most jw's do not fully understand or even care about jw beliefs and doctrines.

Exactly. For most it will make no difference. But this silly version will do damage. To put it impolitely, it's simply too dumb of explanation. Can you imagine how convoluted it would be to explain the overlapping generation concept to a semi-intelligent prospective JW? The last two attempts at revising the "generation" have taken the wind out of the sails, the urgency out of the message. In the last twenty years the Watchtower has had two big doctrinal challenges: 1. Redefine the "King of the North" after the collapse of the Soviet system. 2. Make the "generation" teaching chronologically viable. So far, the Writing Department has drawn a blank.

tms