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  LET'S GET REAL

  by Victor_E in

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  the year is circa 1994 san antonio texas.

  i am sitting in a meeting of elders, ministerial servants and circuit overseer waschak (sp?).

  the final topic of a form letter from the society is sexual abuse.

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  Victor:

  very good points! I can attest to the accuracy of your statement:

  "In working in field service that week with Waschak I got to know his personal philosophy of being anti therapy for any psychological problems. He was a victim of victimizers a follower of followers, a blue-collar worker from Arkansas who browned nosed his way to the top. I often wonder of the lives affected by this bubba mentality that repressed victims denying them professional help by their critical bias towards mental health professionals. It is no wonder JW apologists defend tooth and nail an ideology that was programmed into them"
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  My wife and I pioneered in Arkansas at the same time as the Waschalks. I was stunned when Sam was appointed a circuit overseer as he seemed devoid of any real rationality. All style, no substance. . . .

  Sam: Your thought certainly rings true:

  "Once, when I was too sick to attend meetings during the CO’s visit, he called me Sunday evening (never did come by my house to visit) to suggest that I see a “brother” about 90 miles away about my illness. Seems this “brother” was a laboratory technician. I had an excellent physician and I would get better, but my condition (hepatitis) required bed rest for a few weeks"
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  When my wife, an extremely active Witness for 45 years, but plain-spoken, expressed some issues that still bothered her, two elders suggested anti-depressants.

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  I'm Screwed Up, You're Screwed Up

  by Farkel in

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  i have not followed very many threads of late, so if someone has already made the same observations i'm about to make, i apologize for my redundancy.. .

  i admit it: i'm part of a highly secretive, highly elite group.

  (we have to drink two quarts of fresh yak blood and get a tattoo of a pentagram on our butts as part of of the initiation.

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  Two sports analogies:

  This thread has the rhythm of a defensive ping-pong match featuring no slams, just returns. Not only are the two combatants relentless, but there are almost no neutral onlookers. Agendas are transparent and historical.

  In real football(NFL) if a game is tied after four quarters, the teams go in a "Sudden Death". Simon, while you're tinkering with the format, could you include this as a new feature? Just don't bring in "Instant Replay"!

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  I'm Screwed Up, You're Screwed Up

  by Farkel in

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  i have not followed very many threads of late, so if someone has already made the same observations i'm about to make, i apologize for my redundancy.. .

  i admit it: i'm part of a highly secretive, highly elite group.

  (we have to drink two quarts of fresh yak blood and get a tattoo of a pentagram on our butts as part of of the initiation.

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  Words from the Englishman:

  "I thought of him as some sort of Father figure with all that admonishment stuff that he does! Does he drive a Morris Minor 1000?"
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  Talk about "screwed up" reasoning!(Keeping Thread Theme Alive)

  Yes, I remember all those POS English cars: the Hillman, Cortina, Morris Minor, Anglia. . . .

  TeeJay drives a White Ford Bronco, thank you very much!
  His cousin drives a Hundai Excel capable of 105 MPH. No sissy cricket mallets in either trunk!

  Man, Uncle Bruce, you are something else! Bet you're a riot in the pub after a few pints!

  yours with a few screws loose,

  TMS
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  Watchtower House of Cards

  by TMS in

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  is it not somewhat ironic that three embarassing, contradictory policy decisions involve the use of cards?.

  these matters are all fully detailed and documented in current posts and in the archives.. 1. the mexican cartilla.

  2. the political card in malawi.

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  Is it not somewhat ironic that three embarassing, contradictory policy decisions involve the use of cards?

  These matters are all fully detailed and documented in current posts and in the archives.

  1. The Mexican cartilla

  2. The political card in Malawi

  3. The U.N. library card

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  My Take On Anonimity.

  by Englishman in

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  this is just a few thoughts that i have regarding the subject of anonimity.

  yes, i am making this post after being in the chat room with several others including kent and prisca.

  it seemed to me that kent posted prisca's pic mainly out of sheer mischievousness and was quite taken aback at her very real distress at having her identity exposed.

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  If someone lurking from the Service Department will simply read my 162 posts to this forum, taking careful note of geographical locations, time-frame, "privileges of service", et al., they will be able to identify this evil apostate.

  TMS, or is it TeeEmEs?
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  Quips and Quotes

  by Frenchy in

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  "...it does not take deliberate lies to develop mistaken beliefs.

  at times, we just misread things.

  how many people have met untimely deaths doing something they believed was right?

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  "When I look back on all the crap I learned in High School,
  its a wonder I can think at all.

  But my lack of education hasn't hurt me none.
  I can read the writing on the wall."

  Paul Simon, "Kodachrome"

  "The teachers who taught me weren't cool, putting me down, turning
  me 'round, filling me up with their rules."

  John Lennon, "Getting Better"

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  An Open Letter From Brother Jaracz

  by hillary_step in

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  now, that got your attention didn't it!

  this if for max to raise a chuckle i hope.. apostate tricksters,.

  i was simmering in my jacuzzi recently, shading my kindly eyes with a copy of the isaiahs prophecy book, which incidentally is steam-proof , when don adams slid under my door and stood up with a lightening-like motion that startled me verily.

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  Hillary.

  Thank you.

  I do not know Teddy J, personally. Many sources in this newsgroup paint him as the kind of ego-tripping power monger I always fought against in my 50 year "Theocratic" career.

  While such personalities could never exist in a truly "God-ruled" organization, they are everyday in corporations, including WTBS.

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  If Andy Griffith Was an Elder....

  by SixofNine in

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  ....he'd be saying "waaaeeell, boutros boutros ghali.

  i'll say; don't this ngo thang jist take the cake?!

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  SixofNine:

  This is a wonderful thread. Sheriff Taylor would have been a superb elder. . . . commonsensical, not high on protocol, seeing people for what they really are, not their veneer. He would have brushed aside Talmudlike rules as so much poppycock, just as he dismissed Barney's booktaught notions of law enforcement.
  86% of the Opies wouldn't have necessarily forsaken their core beliefs with the kind of nurturing and room-to-grow Taylor allowed.

  Wistfully thinking about what could-have-been, should-have-been.

  TMS
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  'To Whom Do They Belong There's Much Uncertainty!

  by hillary_step in

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  it is not a new revelation to see the striking and overwhelming parallels between the wts, its modus operandi and the legalistic leanings of the rabbis of ancient israel.

  these interpreters of the law, developed rabbinical prisons enclosed by walls of complex rules and regulations by which they held power over their adherents.

  note how the wts explains their actions :the decisions of the rabbis quoted in the mishnah would affect the day-to-day lives of jews everywhere.

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  Hillary:

  Many excellent points! The irony for me is that the WTBS creates a Talmudlike prison for their adherents as well as a self-imposed stifling workload for themselves. The hundreds of rulings they must make on blood components, so-called neutrality issues, sexual practices, etc. make any real spiritual shepherding impossible. None of this makes anyone more Christlike.

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  Justice for the Governing Body

  by TMS in

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  the recent "uncovering" of the watchtower's complicity with the united nations calls for prompt phinehas-like action to "keep jehovah's organization clean".

  an investigative committee should be formed to determine "who knew and when did they know it?

  " a judicial hearing should follow for those governing body members who "signed on" to this impure alliance.. the current governing body of jehovah's witnesses should resign immediately as they are no longer "examples to the flock"(1 pet.

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  I hadn't really "bought into" all the corporate moves as more than window dressing, but then I'm not a Watchtower insider.

  My intended point was simply that any normal JW would face disciplinary action if involved in a similar association. Regardless of the current load of responsibility these men have, they are still "elders of the flock". By their own standards, they no longer qualify.

  By Watchtower standards they should face disciplinary action up to and including disfellowshipping. If some show genuine heartfelt repentence, then "public reproof" with full restrictions would be a viable alternative.

  TMS