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  All Those Creepy Files

  by choosing life in

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  have you ever thought of all those creepy files that the elders keep on wrongdoing?

  how strange to have your sins written down and kept in a file somewhere.

  do they ever dispose of them?

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  As an 18 year old judicial committee member, I had access to the congregation files. Some oldtimers will recall a book "Kingdom Service Questions" detailing the appropriate handling of various sexual matters and other sins. My natural curiosity got the best of me and I read the entire file in an afternoon, The unsealed material contained judicial cases and other sensitive matters dating back to the early 40's.

  In about a dozen congregations as an elder, presiding overseer or whatever, I always read the entire file.

  In the late 70's there was an effort to seal, but not dispose of judicial papers. Many congregations ignored this direction and still left judicial matters in a file, unsealed. Sometimes, these were in the congregation library, unlocked. In the last few years, care of this material may be more secure, but I wonder how many elder's wives, children, visitors, etc. have perused these materials over the years.

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  The Anal-Retentive Boss or How Do I Survive the Speak of the Control Freak?

  by TresHappy in

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  i started at this job over a year ago and my boss never takes vacations, is there 7 days a week including holidays.

  he's 54 and never been married.

  he's not gay; he's just married to the job.

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  If others are chafing under the micro-management, you can all start referring everything to the new boss. He may be overwhelmed a bit and start releasing some of the control.

  I recognize the type and know he will not change easily. The only hope may be that he fail miserably or succeed well enough for a promotion.

  Perhaps, you can be re-assigned to another department in the same company before this know-it-all undermines your reputation.

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  Sharpening our skills to deal with superiors

  by purplesofa in

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  this past week i came back to work after being gone a week for my brothers funeral.. my human resource person comes drooping in where i am sorting though stuff to deliver for the day and says she needs to talk to me......i said ok.......how about now?.

  i go in her office and she sits and i sit......she says ......your job is going to change......and tells me the two things that are going to change.. she says nothing like good morning ......how are you today......glad you are back blah blah blah!

  she is the first person i see and speak with after being out a week for a funeral.. besides all that .....what was changing was based on misinformation from the person that does my job while i was gone.......who was fired yesterday btw......but that is another story.. i was talking to another person about how this all went down and i said ......we have to always sharpen our skills to deal with the inadequite way our superiors handle things.

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  Purplesofa,

  Well done and said! There is nothing more satisfying that dealing with a workplace or congregation ambush successfully. Controlling anger/emotions can be so difficult facing condescension, injustice and boorishness without warning.

  With that being said, my experience was usually of winning the battle, but losing the war, so to speak. There is nothing that creates more stress in the workplace or congregation that knowing that you are powerless.

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  The Man With the Big Nose

  by TMS in

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  no offense intended for the anointed ones on this board, but ive always compared such professed ones to martin jensen, who professed nothing for himself except that he wasnt good for much.. this iowa corn farmer became a jw in the 40s, was promptly divorced by his wife, and moved to the southern tip of texas, the end of the world.

  by default he became the presiding overseer of the english unit, although he never gave a public talk.

  there were many unsuccessful attempts over the years to replace him with a more suitable shepherd.

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  JWdaughter, Natan:

  Yes, there are good people among Jehovah's Witnesses. They unwittingly become part of the mechanism that holds us in the religion. Their unvarnished love and belief quelches our doubts before they even develop.

  The death of purplesofa's brother got me to thinking about death, funerals. I have no words of comfort for anyone. I can't even say they "are in a better place".

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  Out of the mouths of babes

  by mrsjones5 in

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  this morning at the breakfast table my eight year old daugther asked if my mother went to church.

  i told her yes and they call it a kingdom hall.

  my oldest son (he's twelve) pipes in "yeah, it's a boring place.

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  Mrs. Jones,

  Your babies are safe.

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  The Man With the Big Nose

  by TMS in

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  no offense intended for the anointed ones on this board, but ive always compared such professed ones to martin jensen, who professed nothing for himself except that he wasnt good for much.. this iowa corn farmer became a jw in the 40s, was promptly divorced by his wife, and moved to the southern tip of texas, the end of the world.

  by default he became the presiding overseer of the english unit, although he never gave a public talk.

  there were many unsuccessful attempts over the years to replace him with a more suitable shepherd.

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  My apologies for resurrecting a 5 year old thread, but like Ricky Ricardo may have implied: "I got some 'splainin' to do."

  I wrote this thread in anger. I had just attended my brother-in-laws' funeral and had been subjected to one of the most gawdawful witness funeral talks you could imagine. Nothing about the deceased, just a scripture-flipping, mind-numbing whirlwind through witness beliefs. What really grates at me is not the talk, but the fact that I actually gave a feeble congrats to the speaker afterwards. You always regret the things you did not say, did not do. Believe me, I have a lifetime of such regrets.

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  ps: Martin, of course, was not my bro-in-law. I started thinking about witness funerals in general and my thought drifted to Martin's. Don't know if any of this makes sense.
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  (PET FLUFF) ----May have my Doberman by next week

  by restrangled in

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  i know most of you could care less, but for those of us who love dobes, this is a pretty big deal.. i am trying to adopt a 6 year old pure bread intact male who sounds like a gem..my boys are so excited.. the owner should be coming this weekend to drop her dogs and see how i do with them.

  i am beside myself with joy at this point.

  she has chosen me out of all who responded in florida.. please wish me luck!.

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  I have a pretender: a min pin. I doubt seriously if he would back down from a doberman or an aircraft carrier if his master were threatened.

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  Are There Any Worthy Non-Watchtower Charities?

  by TMS in

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  jehovah's witnesses are subtly discouraged from contributing to any charities other that the watchtower society.

  while acknowledging that groups other that the wt may do "some good", jw's may feel that charitable groups are generally dishonest, wasteful or simply not doing things "jehovah's way.".

  now, as an ex-jw, have you found any charities worthy of your monetary support?

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  Jehovah's Witnesses are subtly discouraged from contributing to any charities other that the Watchtower Society. While acknowledging that groups other that the WT may do "some good", JW's may feel that charitable groups are generally dishonest, wasteful or simply not doing things "Jehovah's way."

  Now, as an ex-JW, have you found any charities worthy of your monetary support?

  I will submit one, but I know there are many others.

  Innocence Project, Inc.100 Fifth Ave Third Floor New York,NY 10011 http://www.innocenceproject.org tms
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  NEW Interview with Bill Bowen of Silentlambs on recent events

  by Dogpatch in

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  the last interview i did with bill bowen was in april of 2003, and new things have happened regarding the pedophile issues in the watchtower's corrupt system led by ted jaracz and his corporate cronies.

  some things are the same (mainly wt policies), and others have changed.

  it took 10 years to develop some legal precendents to be laid down in order for lawsuits against the catholic priest pedophiles to move ahead, and some important legal precedents have now been established in court so as to pave the road for effective lawsuits against the watchtower leaders for their complicity in allowing pedophiles to remain in the congregations in good standing, some even as elders.

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  Thanks Randy, Bill

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  Remember when KH's had a piano and real singing?

  by WingCommander in

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  the thread about got me thinking about my very early childhood, back when witnesses were allowed to be social and have get togethers.

  they also had a piano in every congregation i ever attended, and an older sister would always play the kingdom melody.

  there was actual singing - not mindless droning and humming.

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  As PaNiCAtTaCk related the granting or retracting of the piano-playing privilege was a source of contention in congregations over and above M.S. or elder appointments.

  Old Sister McKinney in the black congregation in Little Rock never forgave the young upstart elder from New York who took away her piano privileges for an "unsubmissive attitude". She used a slang, derogatory name to refer to Bro. Perkins. Sister McKinney had been the "Company Servant" in the Little Rock East Congregation in the 40's before qualified brothers became available.

  Sister Hilliard in North Little Rock never got over having her piano privileges revoked when her and her elder husband separated "unscripturally" never to divorce or remarry.

  The record/cassette/CD playing was certainly less spontaneous, but the regulating of piano-playing privileges in many congregations was a real pain in the proverbial ass. Balancing piano skill, nepotism, "spirituality", congregation politics, etc. was an impossible task.

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