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  2015 special talk outline-A PROMISE OF PERFECT FAMILY HAPPINESS

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jw's are such a happy group .

  let's see how this talk addresses the internal issues that we find within the jw's such as:.

  courtesy of jwfacts.com.

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  JW's are such a happy group and with this talk we will reinforce this notion.

  Let's see how this talk addresses the internal issues that we find within the JW's such as:

  Courtesy of JWfacts.com

  The focus of what is wrong revolves around a single point, the high control that the Watchtower Society has over its members, affecting both spirituality and day-to-day living. This predominates the following areas;

  • Day-to-day lives

  • Strict shunning of former members, including family

  • Banning of certain medical treatment

  • Short term planning for the future regarding education, finances, marriage and children

  • Demeaning view of 'worldly' people

  • Fear and negative view of life in the Last Days

  • Control over information and questioning

  • Stunted emotional development of members born into the religion

  • Spirituality - Two class system

  • Bible was written principally for the leaders

  • Salvation only comes through close alignment with the leaders

  • Jesus is mediator solely for the 144,000
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  Attention Governing Body: October 2, 2014 is only 940 days away...

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1823, john aquila brown (a man who is not mentioned in any wt publication) came up with a bizarre mathematical calculation which totalled 2,520 years (in an unauthorized attempt to predict the end of the gentile times).... several religions recycled this bizarre calculation, including the adventists and the bible students... when armageddon didn't come on the variety of early 20th century dates predicted by several "dooms-day" religions of that time (including charles taze russell's bible students who predicted that the big a would start in 1914), they all finally realized that this 2,520-year calculation was nothing more than arbitrary mathematical speculation derived from erratic biblical extrapolation.... except for the bible students who continued to move up the date for armageddon 2 more times (1918, 1925) and then decided to use wwi as the starting point for the "last days".. all the while, one thing that seems to remain intact is the october 2, 1914 date.

  oddly, for the watchtower bible & tract publishing cult, this particular date still marks the end of the 2,520-year period (that john aquila brown referred to in his bizarre 1823 book "the even tide")... again, no mention of this in any watchtower publication.

  but, for jws, that date still remains the starting point for the period of time often referred to as the "last days" or even "the generation that shall not pass".. because of this, the governing body has been forced to change the definition of "the generation that shall not pass" countless times since the early 1970's.

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  It is going to be a great day, I can feel it in my nuggets!
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  AD1914.com Coming Soon!!

  by ABibleStudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i visited the jehovah's witness report website today.

  i read the following article:.

  on october 1st 2014, barbara anderson will join in and participate in the launch of a new website ad1914.com.

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  The height of delusion on display at last Tuesdays meeting...

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i literally just sat there with my mouth open.

  sometimes the delusional mind of jws takes steroids.. it was during the draw close to jehovah study where they praise the mosaic law and how perfectly wonderful it was.

  you should have seen the almost giddy attitude the conductor had and the comments from the audience.

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  I also did not like that they claimed that the Israelites did not rape. While they may not have done it on the spot, in many cases the virgins were forced to marry the very soldiers they just witnessed kill their parents and siblings. They could pick out those "beautiful in form" "all who they chose" What if she did not want to have sex with her new husband? He wouldnt force himself on her would he?

  The book is horrible but the reading assingment was worst...

  I guess they did not read the reading assignment for this week from the book of Numbers chapters 30 to 32. Chapter 31 clearly shows how loving these Israelites really were.

  On the bright side, many did not raise their hands and I suspect a good portion had the same thoughts I did. I know for a fact that many JWs struggle with the barbarism of the OT. I know I did. Unlike other religions, the GB do not try to forget about the barbarism, they highlight it and praise it as good!

  During the bible highlights only 7 people made a comment and NOT ONE PERSON was brave enough to talk about the killings perpetuated in chapter 31. Like many have said before, when you read the bible and isolate the verses that preachers don’t like to highlight, YOU TURN ATHEIST!!

  I was hearing on the radio testimonies from women who escaped ISIS and I could not finish the complete story. The woman who first spoke was telling how they are selling 9 year old girls for sex, how women decided to hang themselves or cut their wrists vs. getting raped, and I could hear the pain and anguish through the radio. I had to turn it off.

  ISIS does all of this in the name of Allah and the Israelites did it in the name of Yahweh, what is the difference? NONE.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  So after 125 pages and 63,016 views...

  God is not great.

  "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. [...] who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent?" Nietzsche

  No one will stop the suffering and religious fundamentalists will continue to have this twisted moral mentality, that horrible death is good because God can fix it. So what is God waiting for? all we hear is [SILENCE]
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  Blown away-- where to go from here

  by All for show in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i stumbled upon this website a few weeks ago due to the jw.org ridiculousness, since then i haven't been able to pull myself away.

  the thoughts, feelings, and concerns i have had the past few years aren't just mine.

  it's global.

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  You will find out that although we might not agree on how we view the world, God, death, etc... conformity never equals unity.

  Welcome and enjoy the ride!
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  Minor Update to circuit accounting scam

  by Justnowout in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  many outside are now aware of the scam.... the brother announces a "deficit" at the assemblies.

  what they dont announce is that the so called expenses include a predetermined donation to the branch.

  meaning, the assembly hall is paid for so the basic expenses should be utilities, maybe some speaker expenses and a 52nd share of property taxes and the like.... however the "deficit" always seems to run into the thousands with "expenses incured" totaling 7-10k.

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  They cut in half the number of days a circuit or group of congregations uses the hall but double the expected contribution. Thus, the hall is used more and donated for more. Sons of b****s

  Some people have great imagination, I should change careers and start my own religion
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  Will JW.ORG actually harm the WT Society Long Term ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my son and i were discussing this yesterday over coffee.

  since the wt society in previous years virtually demonized going on the internet at all for jw's - now wt leaders are doing a complete turn around or about face probably so as to " compete " or keep up with all the anti-jw websites that are out there to give the wt society point of view.. however- it very well may backfire on them as once people start doing google searches looking for jw.org it will bring up all the other websites dealing with any jw issues and in the privacy of their own homes out of curiosity i'm sure lots of jw's are going to want to check out some of these sites to see what all the " apostate " hoopla is all about.

  i wonder how many jw's will do this and will it have an effect in opening more minds to other views ?

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  And adding to outlaw's comment...

  The current JW's are lazier than ever when it comes to deep study, they just sing kumbaya ALL THE WAY
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  "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth"

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as current witnesses, ex-jw's, believers, non believers.

  the topic of what truth is, has been the dominating thought and motivation to many of us here.. so, what is truth?.

  a question that has lingered since the dawn of our consciousness and it will stay as long as the human race is around.. .

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  Hey brainfloss, thanks for reminding me what I wrote 4 months ago
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  NEW 'Bible Teach' book... to be released at Annual Meeting?

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure if this has been mentioned on this board yet, but i just heard from a fairly reliable source that the annual meeting will discuss, among other things, major changes in the 'bible teach' book.

  has anyone else heard this??.

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  Well it depreciates because God is taking his sweet time to bring the big A