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Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through
by Watchtower-Free inalert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .
over 2 minutes of pranking .
as i type he is editing the recording into a video .
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Quick introduction
by OzGirl inonly have a few minutes to spare so thought i would throw this together.. been in for about 30 years.
questions and doubts gathered over that time.
i have a keen interest in the legal and financial matters of the watchtower.. came across this site about 5 years ago.
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New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you
by suavojr innew kindumb halls in a neighborhood near you.
notes and highlights from todays meeting.
opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the us branch together live from nyc..
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suavojr
No talk about a basement, I seriously doubt they will do that. -
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New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you
by suavojr innew kindumb halls in a neighborhood near you.
notes and highlights from todays meeting.
opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the us branch together live from nyc..
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New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you
by suavojr innew kindumb halls in a neighborhood near you.
notes and highlights from todays meeting.
opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the us branch together live from nyc..
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suavojr
They will build KH with a commercial style, therefore it will be easier to sell in the future. One thing is for sure, no Armageddon is in sight. -
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New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you
by suavojr innew kindumb halls in a neighborhood near you.
notes and highlights from todays meeting.
opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the us branch together live from nyc..
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suavojr
New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you
Notes and highlights from today’s meeting
· Opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the US branch together live from NYC.
· Robert Luccioni asked, Why the need for change? He read Isaiah 60: 17-22 with emphasis in verse 22 “The little one himself will become a thousand, and the small one a mighty nation. I myself, Jehovah, shall speed it up in its own time.”
· Things are happening so fast that is hard to keep up with all the changes.
· Showed a video with a map of USA and reviewed stats of issues with “overcrowding”
· Showed a graph on how the RBC and LWLR were successful programs but it was time for a change
· Jehovah has provided a “master plan” and to achieve his goal we must be (PATIENT=GENEROUS)
· Mention of need for donations
· We need to reduce cost to 20%
· We cannot be like the Israelites that complained about leaving Egypt, WE MUST ACCEPT THE CHANGES. During the 1st century the Organization accepted change, the result was what we find in (Acts 16:5) Therefore, indeed, the congregations continued to be made firm in the faith and to increase in number from day to day.
· The GB does not want elders to dwell on the past, read (Ecclesiastes 7:10) Do not say: “Why has it happened that the former days proved to be better than these?” for it is not due to wisdom that you have asked about this.
· Elders were told not to point out the flaws about this new arrangement. (Ecclesiastes 7:21, 22) Also, do not give your heart to all the words that people may speak, that you may not hear your servant calling down evil upon you. 22 For your own heart well knows even many times that you, even you, have called down evil upon others.
(2 Corinthians 13:11) Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with YOU.
· After reading 2nd Corinthians, the brother stated “We have to be ready to obey fellow workers”
· Leon Weaver started his talk with Isaiah 2:3 and said that our growth was prophesied in this verse. (Isaiah 2:3) And many peoples will certainly go and say: “Come, YOU people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths.” For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem.
· Jehovah will give us prosperity
· There is a need to standardized all KH’s
· The US branch committee had heated discussions that lasted overnight going back and forth about building in a traditional residential model or go with a commercial model
· They prayed without being in agreement and at the end all voted in favor for a commercial model (Yes, the new KH’s will have WINDOWS)
· They spoke about budgeting, legal department, accounting, etc…
· Introduced new positions, FIELD REPRESENTATIVE, MAINTENANCE TRAINER, too many other boring titles for brothers to fight for.
· The new headquarters is 1.6 million SQ ft, we need to build 5.9 million SQ ft of new KH’s and if we add the renovations, the total comes to 7.4 Million SQ ft
· If we can just extend the life of all the KH’s by one year, the branch will save 80 million dollars
GB Lett ended with a delusional talk where he said, “We are mightier than all the nations”
To summarize:
The GB is focused on expanding there brand of JW.org, interesting how they are not concerned about expanding Christianity but filling all the places of worship with their blue JW logo. One comment that stood out, was how they want to have a self-serve literature stand with a similar setup of the metropolitan preaching. This is to help visitors connect with the street preaching and make them feel comfortable when they enter the KH.
New KH’s will have big screen TV’s where the yearly text goes, the sound will have video, internet and a computer monitor. The conference room will be small and next to the entrance for elders to meet with “an individual” we all know what that means.
David Splane closed the meeting with a prayer where he summarized the entire event.
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Last nights meeting...
by DATA-DOG ini know dubs are delusional.
i know dubs don't reason well.
i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.
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suavojr
Hopefully Caleb will help the Jdubs with some tips on how to survive the GT while hiding inside an elder's basement, too bad I'm in Florida where WE HAVE NO BASEMENTS!!!
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My life by the numbers..
by myway2007 ini have enjoyed this site long enough, that i thought it was time to start giving back.
it's been a reflective few days as i tried to quantify the passage of time.
how time flies.... i turn 55 this year- and life is amazing!it was last year i reached out to one of my siblings via email to see if i could visit my mom beforeshe passes as she is over 90 now and the response i got was that it was too painful for herto see me until "i do the right thing"it was 5 years ago that i was able to finally become whole from all the anger and pain and normalize my life.it was 33 years ago that i was df'd.
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suavojr
It is sad that your family cannot allow themselves to do what is right, over the status imposed by an ecclesiastical group of men. But great to live life your way! Thanks for sharing.
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What's so great about the Elder's School???
by DATA-DOG ini have a friend who is an eldub and he just completed elder's school!
what did he learn?
as far as i can tell, he learned:.
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suavojr
It is just a management meeting where they teach the frontline managers (elders) how to enforce WT rules and regulations. In essence they get directions as to handling difficult cases within the congregation and if any hot issue is brought up like "child molestation " the answer is call the legal department. They never mention a single word about loving others like Jesus did and always look for ways to maintain the organization's reputation clean, with the excuse that they are cleaning God's house. -
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Re: Art Skills Needed at Bethel
by suavojr inall they want is some spiritually-qualified publishers blind individuals who believe they are god's mouthpiece on earth.
no wonder their artwork is so poor.. .
christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-11001/8/15-e usjanuary 8, 2015to all congregations in the united states branch territoryre: art skills needed at betheldear brothers:the beautiful illustrations in our printed publications and on jw.org serve as teaching aidsthat emphasize spiritual truths from the bible.
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suavojr
I am fully aware that getting a college degree does not equal instant success. Why don't we balance the conversation?
The GB is not completely wrong about not recommending higher education, the problem is they look down on its members that attend college. They consider such a person as a lover of this world and mark the person as materialistic. But to be fair,higher education is a big decision and cannot be taken lightly.
Review some of the excerpts from the following secular book.
Is College Worth It?: A Former United States Secretary of Education and a Liberal Arts Graduate Expose the Broken Promise of Higher Education
* Many kids go to college just because it’s “the next thing” expected of them. Majorities of high school seniors do go to college, even though many of them really don’t want to go (at least, they don’t want to go and study). Our own President has even said that every American should get some higher education. Every American? Really? Because there are lots of house builders, electricians, and landscapers out there who have no business in college. I couldn’t do their jobs if I tried. But I really don’t care if they went to college. Bennett goes into how our society looks down on those without college degrees, and this is probably true. It’s a shame though, because by pushing everyone into college, the colleges are forced to lower their standards.* Colleges are lowering their standards. Colleges must make money. With the advent of the internet, students can rate their professors. Students are more likely to highly rate “easy” profs who give little homework. Tougher profs usually earn lower ratings from students. Fewer kids sign up for their classes, and soon they have to decide — do they decrease the rigor of their courses, or run the risk of losing their jobs altogether?
* Many colleges today spend vast sums on things that have nothing to do with education. They feature million dollar gyms and more — all to try to attract the more well-heeled students and their parents.
* Colleges also often feel that a higher price makes them appear more “prestigious.” Yet Bennett has charts of various schools — their 4 year cost, and the 30- year “return on investment” of attending them. Many have a negative return: the student would have been better off investing college money and going straight to work out of high school than paying to attend those colleges, because it will take so long to pay back the cost. What madness!
* The stereotype is accurate: college professors are liberal by wide margins, and that means that many of their students come out of school with liberal ideologies as well. Additionally, while many lower-level college profs and assistants are low-paid, colleges also have their share of “prima donnas” who teach only a class or two, offer little to no office hours, and spend most of their days shuttered away in their offices enjoying luxurious perks.