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  Covering the territory

  by Ding in

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  how often are jws trying to cover a given territory nowadays?.

  logically, they should be trying to cover the territory more and more often the closer armageddon gets, but it seems to me i see them out far less often than i used to..

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  ab.ortega

  Congregation I was in covered a huge area and had close to 50 territory maps. The whole territory was never fully covered. Service group overseers had favorite territories so those were worked often. The least favorite were hardly ever worked. Sometimes the person in charge of service wasn't even prepared with a territory so they would just send the pubs to whatever territory off the top of their heads....so some sections were overworked. Even during campaigns the whole thing was not done. (even with 30+ RPs and a large amount of auxiliary for the month)

  JWs like to say they are the most organized, when in reality it's not so true.
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  Local Elder Mentions this Site from the Platform

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a local elder had the part this week on the "good news" brochure.

  he said: "if the householder has any questions, direct them to jw.org, don't say, just look up jehovah's witnesses on the internet(an older sister said this at the door), if you do they will be directed to a site visited by apostates and weak witnesses!

  " "this mistake, would cause the householder to never accept bible truth".. i thought to myself, wow, i'm sure some listening to this part, will get curious now(many in the hall are just being exposed to the internet, and practicing with their new tablets) and do, just what they were told not to do..

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  That's why they have the research guide. I prefer google.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the March 19, 2017 WT Study (JANUARY 2017)

  by blondie in

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  blondie’s comments you will not hear at the march 19, 2017 wt study (january 2017).

  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

  bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

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  What sticks out at me is "presumptuous"

  What are “presumptuous acts”? By definition, when someone rashly or impertinently does something that he is not authorized to do, he is acting presumptuously.

  
  

  Didn't Jackson say it would be presumptuous to think of themselves as God's channel of communication? However, they do claim to be so. So they are NOT the authorized channel of communication.
  
  
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  First Visit in Years

  by truth_b_known in

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  i bought a house literally in walking distance from the local kingdom hall.

  we used to get saturday morning doorknockers on a regular basis.

  then it stopped.

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  ab.ortega

  It's back in style.
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  Mexico throws 10 people in jail for being JWs

  by darkspilver in

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  nvi noticias, friday 10 march 2017. ten citizens are imprisoned in the isthmus for being jehovah's witnesses.

  http://www.nvinoticias.com/nota/53600/encarcelan-diez-ciudadanos-en-el-istmo-por-ser-testigos-de-jehova.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5714189639221248/_post/5153619030573056.

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  ab.ortega

  Yeah, bribing is allowed by headquarters in Mexico. Not in other countries, though.
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  Does Anyone Know The "Real" Attitude That JWs Have Towards "Inactive Ones"?

  by minimus in

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  does the rank and file or the elders view us as disassociated or disfellowshipped or simply "weak" or possibly a "prodigal son" type?.

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  That's probably true, scratchme1010. Though they might not know it, they are jealous. lol

  I know they pity me...they fell "sorry" for me but I feel "sorry" for them. What a pitiful lie they are living.
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  Local Elder Mentions this Site from the Platform

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a local elder had the part this week on the "good news" brochure.

  he said: "if the householder has any questions, direct them to jw.org, don't say, just look up jehovah's witnesses on the internet(an older sister said this at the door), if you do they will be directed to a site visited by apostates and weak witnesses!

  " "this mistake, would cause the householder to never accept bible truth".. i thought to myself, wow, i'm sure some listening to this part, will get curious now(many in the hall are just being exposed to the internet, and practicing with their new tablets) and do, just what they were told not to do..

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  I did a google search and didn't find this specific site until page 3. A lot of it is news on what is going on in Russia. First thing is from jw.org - the FAQ on what JWs believe. How can we get this page to the top of results....
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  No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones

  by AverageJoe1 in

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  2. beliefs

  new letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).

  february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.

  re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.

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  Not that Elders ever followed that arrangement...at least none that I'm aware of.
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  The Study edition of Luke NWT Now on JW.ORG...great, now they dig even deeper into the pile of muck

  by NikL in

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  so had to check it out to see what it's all about.. what i got was more cloudiness.

  as in luke 2:9.... suddenly jehovah’s angel stood before them, and jehovah’s glory gleamed around them, and they became very fearful.

  the notes point out.... jehovah’s angel: this expression occurs many times in the hebrew scriptures, starting at ge 16:7. when it occurs in early copies of the septuagint, the greek word agʹge·los (angel; messenger) is followed by the divine name written in hebrew characters.

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  Thanks for posting. I find particularly interesting the last quote you cite. The rest of the quote mentions: "When that happens, when evidence is at hand, biblical researchers will have to give due consideration to the views held by the NW editors. Until that day, translators must follow the manuscript tradition as it is currently known, even if some of its characteristics appear to us puzzling, perhaps even inconsistent with what we believe. Anything translators want to add to clarify the meaning of ambiguous passages, such as those where “Lord” might refer to either God or the Son of God, can and should be put into footnotes, while keeping the Bible itself in the words given to us.

  So, WT basically cherry picked just what they wanted to make their point. However, it seems they don't agree with the full thought of this scholar, Jason BeDuhn because they still replace "Lord" to suit their beliefs.
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  Ex-JW's on NPR

  by Mum in

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  yesterday i was listening to the radio at work as usual.

  i listen to npr (national public radio) on most days.

  there was a report about some ex-jw's who were "daring to dream" again.

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  The link is posted a few posts below. :)