Posts by Longlivetherenegades

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Do We Get A Clean Slate When We Die? (Watchtower View Examined)

by Sea Breeze in

the watchtower teaches that the opportunity to be born again and enjoy complete justification with god ended in 1935, having been limited to only 144k since pentecost.

so, it is very surprising that the watchtower embraces the death that is described in romans chapter 6, since this is the very death that is required to be born again…… which is denied to watchtower members!

romans chapter 6, verse 7 is about saying goodbye to the old personality, the “old man” in the king james version.

Longlivetherenegades

Nice

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Fred Franz 85 talk on WTS History

by Vanderhoven7 in

learn why fred quit university to join the watchtower.

https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.

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@ slimboyfat

So true, one only need to allow the DEFENDER to talk for an extended period before you start to see APOSTASY in the words coming out from their mouth.

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Have JEHOVAH ever supported WARS between his WORSHIPPERS?

by Longlivetherenegades in

jehovah's witnesses used to state other christian denominations go to war and in fact that their religious leaders bless such wars.

they see this as one reason why all other christian denominations are not true christians since they kill one another at war and therefore they don't love one another as stated by jesus in john 13: 34,35.. for example when a roman catholic go to war, he/she is bound to kill a fellow roman catholic in the cause of the war.

therefore roman catholic can't be true christians since its member don't love one another and kill one another at war and as such god cannot be in support of such wars where his worshippers kill one another.. the question that comes for consideration is, has jehovah ever supported wars between his own worshippers?.

Longlivetherenegades

Thanks @ neat blue dog and your comment too

The post is to see the essence of using not going to war by JWs as criteria for being true Christians. When an account like that of the judges existed. The idea of Christian killing Christian at war don't sit well with the JWs but JWs kill fellow JWs with policies and doctrines without going to war.

One can only imagine where the difference lie.

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Have JEHOVAH ever supported WARS between his WORSHIPPERS?

by Longlivetherenegades in

jehovah's witnesses used to state other christian denominations go to war and in fact that their religious leaders bless such wars.

they see this as one reason why all other christian denominations are not true christians since they kill one another at war and therefore they don't love one another as stated by jesus in john 13: 34,35.. for example when a roman catholic go to war, he/she is bound to kill a fellow roman catholic in the cause of the war.

therefore roman catholic can't be true christians since its member don't love one another and kill one another at war and as such god cannot be in support of such wars where his worshippers kill one another.. the question that comes for consideration is, has jehovah ever supported wars between his own worshippers?.

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@ pistolpete.

It look as if you are on standby with that response waiting for the question to drop on that account in Judges 20 - 21.

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Have JEHOVAH ever supported WARS between his WORSHIPPERS?

by Longlivetherenegades in

jehovah's witnesses used to state other christian denominations go to war and in fact that their religious leaders bless such wars.

they see this as one reason why all other christian denominations are not true christians since they kill one another at war and therefore they don't love one another as stated by jesus in john 13: 34,35.. for example when a roman catholic go to war, he/she is bound to kill a fellow roman catholic in the cause of the war.

therefore roman catholic can't be true christians since its member don't love one another and kill one another at war and as such god cannot be in support of such wars where his worshippers kill one another.. the question that comes for consideration is, has jehovah ever supported wars between his own worshippers?.

Longlivetherenegades

Jehovah's witnesses used to state other Christian denominations go to WAR and in fact that their religious leaders bless such WARS. They see this as one reason why all other christian denominations are not true Christians since they kill one another at war and therefore they don't love one another as stated by Jesus in John 13: 34,35.

For example when a roman catholic go to war, he/she is bound to kill a fellow Roman Catholic in the cause of the war. Therefore Roman Catholic can't be true Christians since its member don't love one another and kill one another at WAR and as such God cannot be in support of such WARS where his WORSHIPPERS kill one another.

The question that comes for consideration is, HAS JEHOVAH EVER SUPPORTED WARS BETWEEN HIS OWN WORSHIPPERS?

What comes to mind is the incidence recorded in the book of Judges chapter 20 - 21.

After reading please be free to add your points of view.

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Jehovah`s Witnesses owe their existence to Christendom`s groundwork.

by smiddy3 in

1.jehovah`s witnesses base their bible on christendoms determination of what books of scripture were to become what is known as the bible today,going back to the third century ad.. there were many ,many other books of scripture in existence at that time that these men decided in their own imperfect wisdom not to include them .. where it suited them the jw / gb would use the research of christendoms learned men who compiled bible dictionary`s and bible concordances.. 2.by far the vast majority of jehovah`s witnesses today are off-shoots of many of christendom`s religions from whom they poached members from and then gave birth to their own offspring to grow in numbers.. with all of there self praise of witnessing in all of the earth ,it is mainly wholly contained in lands where christendom has established the major religion of that land and jw`s have poached the most vulnerable people of that time.. 3.how many thousands of people have they converted in bangladesh ?

pakistan ?

china ?

Longlivetherenegades

It is an OPEN SECRET JWs didn't rain down from HEAVEN or germinated from the EARTH unaided

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Havent gone to the kingdom hall in ten years but may have to go back...

by Joliette in

made a big mistake of talking about being raised as a jehovah's witness to some old friends and family.

people have told me that i am still a jws even though i've never been baptized.

i'm in school for social services, dealing with student loan debt, and a lot of other debt.

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@ Joliette how can you get help when most of what you put out here are mixed with SPECULATIONS and ASSUMPTIONS

1. If my family passes away, especially my mom, I've come to realize that I'm not gonna have anybody whose really gonna have my back?

2. What if I end up getting seriously sick, I'm not married at all, don't have children, and it looks like I wont ever have children because I am too old now

3. I believe groups like Jehovahs Witnesses was created for people who have experienced rejection from the world, who can't make it out in the world. I guess I am one of those people.

4. I'm gonna end up in some serious poverty, I can see it coming. I think it will probably have to do with something medically.

5. The biggest thing that I think of is: What if I have a medical emergency? What if I end up having a terminal illness? I don't smoke, drink very occasionally,

6. Then I haven't been too successful at having a career, I'm in a lot of student loan debt, I don't have a lot of security out in the world. I've dealt with a lot discrimination at work (I'm African American and female) so I'm probably never gonna be able to pay back my student loans at all. I'm starting to realize that life is mostly a scam.

My take is this...................

You are in a SERIOUS DEBT at the moment. It is weighing HEAVILY on your mind that from what you want to likely happen is perhaps get help from sorting that debt out from proceeds that will likely come from your MUM when she dies and possibly from relatives whom are JWS who you believe will help you when you return to the JWS organization. Hope your mum have not willed her asset to the ORG. It will be disaster waiting to happen should you bank on those asset as help. Thread carefully on this.

I don't want to see you as a DROP OUT from school until you confirm that. From the explanation you have given so far, you never had a defined plan of action for a life that you know is a SCAM. The JWs don't believe the life they live is a SCAM. You have to live by the RULES they set about life of which you are aware of. You will be kicked out back into a WORLD that you believe has REJECTED you should you fail to heed the rules. It will be DOUBLE TRAGEDY.

Do you have a terminal sickness or illness that you are not willing to DIVULGE?

Finally understand the current situation and predicaments JWs as it is today before making your decision. They are locked in at the moment. Should decide to join better remain locked in because at the moment you can't afford to lose the ONLY PLACE you feel and BELIEVE HELP or SUPPORT is and will come from.

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Food for thought ? Talking to a JW ?

by smiddy3 in

some questions you may like to ask a jehovah`s witness?.

1.when did the modern day jw religion begin?

we all know the stock answer to that q that they will give ,but persevere .. for the past 2000 years there has never been an organization known as jw.

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@ DesirousOfChange

Spot on. Many of the kings in Israel and Judah do led the people into false worship and the kings alone didn't suffer the consequence that comes alongside it

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EXCELLENT F.B Post re: latest Borg Mind Control etc

by Phizzy in

from william.

h. bowen on facebook :.

alienation and garbage the new message of jehovah’s witnesses.

Longlivetherenegades

Thanks @ Hopeless for the info.

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EXCELLENT F.B Post re: latest Borg Mind Control etc

by Phizzy in

from william.

h. bowen on facebook :.

alienation and garbage the new message of jehovah’s witnesses.

Longlivetherenegades

LOAF 1: This describes the person who sins against the spirit and commits unforgivable sins and become stained with toxic oil. You are beyond repair therefore Jehovah WILL throw you into the trash can now to save you for final destruction at Armageddon.

What is considered unforgivable sin? Someone who sins against the ‘Holy Spirit’; See W07 7/15 p.20 under the heading “Have You Sinned Against the Holy Spirit?” it states: “an apostate who has rejected spiritual light..”

· So if you reject the GB as God’s only true word on earth you are considered trash to be discarded and not worth saving.

The JWs won't see the above as being in the same LIGHT with the below

So when the early Protestant, Reformational denominations Rusell and his cohorts reject the PAPAL as God's only true word on earth. The PAPAL considered them as TRASH to be discarded and not worth saving.