Posts by Longlivetherenegades

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Have JEHOVAH ever supported WARS between his WORSHIPPERS?

by Longlivetherenegades in

jehovah's witnesses used to state other christian denominations go to war and in fact that their religious leaders bless such wars.

they see this as one reason why all other christian denominations are not true christians since they kill one another at war and therefore they don't love one another as stated by jesus in john 13: 34,35.. for example when a roman catholic go to war, he/she is bound to kill a fellow roman catholic in the cause of the war.

therefore roman catholic can't be true christians since its member don't love one another and kill one another at war and as such god cannot be in support of such wars where his worshippers kill one another.. the question that comes for consideration is, has jehovah ever supported wars between his own worshippers?.

Longlivetherenegades

@ pistolpete.

It look as if you are on standby with that response waiting for the question to drop on that account in Judges 20 - 21.

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Have JEHOVAH ever supported WARS between his WORSHIPPERS?

by Longlivetherenegades in

jehovah's witnesses used to state other christian denominations go to war and in fact that their religious leaders bless such wars.

they see this as one reason why all other christian denominations are not true christians since they kill one another at war and therefore they don't love one another as stated by jesus in john 13: 34,35.. for example when a roman catholic go to war, he/she is bound to kill a fellow roman catholic in the cause of the war.

therefore roman catholic can't be true christians since its member don't love one another and kill one another at war and as such god cannot be in support of such wars where his worshippers kill one another.. the question that comes for consideration is, has jehovah ever supported wars between his own worshippers?.

Longlivetherenegades

Jehovah's witnesses used to state other Christian denominations go to WAR and in fact that their religious leaders bless such WARS. They see this as one reason why all other christian denominations are not true Christians since they kill one another at war and therefore they don't love one another as stated by Jesus in John 13: 34,35.

For example when a roman catholic go to war, he/she is bound to kill a fellow Roman Catholic in the cause of the war. Therefore Roman Catholic can't be true Christians since its member don't love one another and kill one another at WAR and as such God cannot be in support of such WARS where his WORSHIPPERS kill one another.

The question that comes for consideration is, HAS JEHOVAH EVER SUPPORTED WARS BETWEEN HIS OWN WORSHIPPERS?

What comes to mind is the incidence recorded in the book of Judges chapter 20 - 21.

After reading please be free to add your points of view.

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Jehovah`s Witnesses owe their existence to Christendom`s groundwork.

by smiddy3 in

1.jehovah`s witnesses base their bible on christendoms determination of what books of scripture were to become what is known as the bible today,going back to the third century ad.. there were many ,many other books of scripture in existence at that time that these men decided in their own imperfect wisdom not to include them .. where it suited them the jw / gb would use the research of christendoms learned men who compiled bible dictionary`s and bible concordances.. 2.by far the vast majority of jehovah`s witnesses today are off-shoots of many of christendom`s religions from whom they poached members from and then gave birth to their own offspring to grow in numbers.. with all of there self praise of witnessing in all of the earth ,it is mainly wholly contained in lands where christendom has established the major religion of that land and jw`s have poached the most vulnerable people of that time.. 3.how many thousands of people have they converted in bangladesh ?

pakistan ?

china ?

Longlivetherenegades

It is an OPEN SECRET JWs didn't rain down from HEAVEN or germinated from the EARTH unaided

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Havent gone to the kingdom hall in ten years but may have to go back...

by Joliette in

made a big mistake of talking about being raised as a jehovah's witness to some old friends and family.

people have told me that i am still a jws even though i've never been baptized.

i'm in school for social services, dealing with student loan debt, and a lot of other debt.

Longlivetherenegades

@ Joliette how can you get help when most of what you put out here are mixed with SPECULATIONS and ASSUMPTIONS

1. If my family passes away, especially my mom, I've come to realize that I'm not gonna have anybody whose really gonna have my back?

2. What if I end up getting seriously sick, I'm not married at all, don't have children, and it looks like I wont ever have children because I am too old now

3. I believe groups like Jehovahs Witnesses was created for people who have experienced rejection from the world, who can't make it out in the world. I guess I am one of those people.

4. I'm gonna end up in some serious poverty, I can see it coming. I think it will probably have to do with something medically.

5. The biggest thing that I think of is: What if I have a medical emergency? What if I end up having a terminal illness? I don't smoke, drink very occasionally,

6. Then I haven't been too successful at having a career, I'm in a lot of student loan debt, I don't have a lot of security out in the world. I've dealt with a lot discrimination at work (I'm African American and female) so I'm probably never gonna be able to pay back my student loans at all. I'm starting to realize that life is mostly a scam.

My take is this...................

You are in a SERIOUS DEBT at the moment. It is weighing HEAVILY on your mind that from what you want to likely happen is perhaps get help from sorting that debt out from proceeds that will likely come from your MUM when she dies and possibly from relatives whom are JWS who you believe will help you when you return to the JWS organization. Hope your mum have not willed her asset to the ORG. It will be disaster waiting to happen should you bank on those asset as help. Thread carefully on this.

I don't want to see you as a DROP OUT from school until you confirm that. From the explanation you have given so far, you never had a defined plan of action for a life that you know is a SCAM. The JWs don't believe the life they live is a SCAM. You have to live by the RULES they set about life of which you are aware of. You will be kicked out back into a WORLD that you believe has REJECTED you should you fail to heed the rules. It will be DOUBLE TRAGEDY.

Do you have a terminal sickness or illness that you are not willing to DIVULGE?

Finally understand the current situation and predicaments JWs as it is today before making your decision. They are locked in at the moment. Should decide to join better remain locked in because at the moment you can't afford to lose the ONLY PLACE you feel and BELIEVE HELP or SUPPORT is and will come from.

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Food for thought ? Talking to a JW ?

by smiddy3 in

some questions you may like to ask a jehovah`s witness?.

1.when did the modern day jw religion begin?

we all know the stock answer to that q that they will give ,but persevere .. for the past 2000 years there has never been an organization known as jw.

Longlivetherenegades

@ DesirousOfChange

Spot on. Many of the kings in Israel and Judah do led the people into false worship and the kings alone didn't suffer the consequence that comes alongside it

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EXCELLENT F.B Post re: latest Borg Mind Control etc

by Phizzy in

from william.

h. bowen on facebook :.

alienation and garbage the new message of jehovah’s witnesses.

Longlivetherenegades

Thanks @ Hopeless for the info.

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EXCELLENT F.B Post re: latest Borg Mind Control etc

by Phizzy in

from william.

h. bowen on facebook :.

alienation and garbage the new message of jehovah’s witnesses.

Longlivetherenegades

LOAF 1: This describes the person who sins against the spirit and commits unforgivable sins and become stained with toxic oil. You are beyond repair therefore Jehovah WILL throw you into the trash can now to save you for final destruction at Armageddon.

What is considered unforgivable sin? Someone who sins against the ‘Holy Spirit’; See W07 7/15 p.20 under the heading “Have You Sinned Against the Holy Spirit?” it states: “an apostate who has rejected spiritual light..”

· So if you reject the GB as God’s only true word on earth you are considered trash to be discarded and not worth saving.

The JWs won't see the above as being in the same LIGHT with the below

So when the early Protestant, Reformational denominations Rusell and his cohorts reject the PAPAL as God's only true word on earth. The PAPAL considered them as TRASH to be discarded and not worth saving.

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EXCELLENT F.B Post re: latest Borg Mind Control etc

by Phizzy in

from william.

h. bowen on facebook :.

alienation and garbage the new message of jehovah’s witnesses.

Longlivetherenegades

The Jwbroadcast under scrutiny here is it of Feb 2021 or Feb 2020? I don't have a clue yet.

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If The Jehovah's Witnesses Stole Your Past...Don't Let Them Steal Your Future!

by The Bethelite in

jw
friends

yes, many here have lost many years of life due to being infected by this cult like religion.

for many it is very hard to let go of that life and those wasted years.. of course people need time to heal and this web site is a great place to do that, swap war stories and commiserate.. i was in for over 50 years.

so of course it will be with me for the rest of my life.

Longlivetherenegades

We normally view with repugnance persons who induce others of limited resources to invest in ventures based purely on speculative grounds and which result in devastating financial loss. But there are things even more important, more valuable, and certainly more irreplaceable than money. Our time—the hours, days, months and years it involves—is the “currency” of life itself. Those resources are limited. We would perhaps do well to realize that, even if we live to pass 80 years of age, at birth we only had a fund of about 30,000 days at our disposal At 40, half those 30,000 days are already spent; by the time we are 50, only 11,000 days are still in the fund; at 60, about 7,000 days, and our life “bank account” dwindles dramatically thereafter.

By the same token, while we may be grateful for the thoughts, experience and relative wisdom of others, we can never afford to allow anyone to assume control of our time, in effect dictating the use of the limited funds of our life. We may have done this in the past, and the natural tendency is to resist acknowledging that in doing so we have made a poor investment. To recognize and admit to oneself that years, even decades, have been spent in pursuing an illusionary path is painful. The pain of even contemplating that possibility maybe so strong that we prefer to refuse to consider it, to shut out the hard facts and continue on as we have been doing. But we cannot salvage the investment by “pouring good money after bad.”

ISoCF by Ray Franz........ page 628

We got to move on.

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Are Jehovah Witness willing to end studies?

by Maria Nieves in

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/how-to-conduct-a-bible-study-that-leads-to-baptism-part-two/.

i recently came across the above watchtower article which spoke about conducting bible studies which lead to baptism.

it progressed to say that if the bible study instructor does not see growth within the student or the desire to work towards baptism, then the studies should end.

Longlivetherenegades

@ Maria Nieves

Similar lies is seen in their words regarding baptism.

Bible teach chapter 18 paragraphs 24 states.......that you have made a dedication to Jehovah God himself, not to a work, a cause, other humans, or an organization.

Second baptismal question states............Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?

If indeed Jws don't dedicate themselves to a work when a publisher says I am not interested in the field ministry work why will such be deemed INACTIVE, watched and seen as weak spiritually?

If indeed JWs are not dedicated to other humans, what happens when a JW publisher openly go against the Governing body of JWs as well as its foot soldiers? Why will such be seen as despicable apostates negative spinners, liars misinformation generators?

If indeed JWs are not dedicated to a cause, why will a publisher who publicly reject numerous teachings of the ORG designed for a particular cause that don't align with the scriptures get marked, reproved or disfellowshipped?

If indeed JWs are not dedicated to the ORGANIZATION why will a JWs who decides to DISASSOCIATE gets shunned, demonized and as added in the ORGANIZED book that......... such person repudiates his Christian standing.

One begin to wonder where is the place of CHRISTIAN STANDING in Romans 10: 10 - 13. Since leaving a religious organization equals not a Christian any longer.

I don't know if we should REVIEW it😀😀😀 like someone always do here😀😀😀