risking the flames of the ignorant, let me suggest some reading for all you awakening humans who i have come to love:.
do a search on john edward, he has a site but i am not sure if it is johnedward.com or .org, and he is also on the sci-fi channel(cable tv in usa) and has a site on their page too.
i recommend getting one of his books and watching his show.
RavynX - thanks for sharing,
It is a shame that you are unwell but as you suspect perhaps
you have completed what you came here to do. A gift like yours
should not be dismissed by those who have no personal experience of such
matters. Our experience and emotion is our own truth and collectively becomes
reality - such is life.
warning!
to all of you, who live in the awful illusionary realities of the watchtower world, where everything has gotten so much worse since 1914, will hate the following information so i recommend all faithful jehovah's witnesses not to read any further as this could seriously harm your ability to maintain the doom and gloom mindset so carefully projected into your minds by the watchtower literature and at the meetings.
statements like this:.
Good post Norm,
A well thought out and informative read. You have highlighted the negativity that
thrives in the Tower and causes so much fear throughout the membership.
jesus christ is the main feature of christianity.
what proof is there of him existing?
we touched on this subject on the the last thread that i started, but i would appreciate in depth veiw points and "evidence" please.
Uncle,
I think that those of the Christian persuasion would expect you to ask -
Does Christ exist rather that -'Did he.'
Don't shoot I'm going to die anyway!
do you believe in reincarnation?.
i dont think i believe in it in the same way that most believers do, which is that we keep coming back in different fleshly bodies until we have achieved perfection.. i do, however, strongly suspect that we may well be spirit creatures who find it necessary to inhabit a fleshly body from time to time, and that this entails us having to leave behind most of our past memories.. i say most memories, because many people seem to have some vestigal recollections that don`t seem to fit in with earthly experiences.. i`m pretty sure that i chose my parents!
i have a recollection of being shown a young and kind couple through some form of astral telescope and choosing to become their son.
Thanks for the thread Englishman,
I have enjoyed all the above posts. It is good to see so many people still open enough to truth after all they have been through. Our experience is the only real truth we have, and we should pursue it with all our sensitivity and emotional understanding. We have only glimpsed the true meaning of our existence and the wonders that are in store for us. I have more that I could add but right now I'm off to visit a few past lives for the evening.
hello lurkers.
we sometimes forget that often people read these posts but are afraid to post.. greetings al.
the watchtower police cannot trace your post like in the movies.
Tom (thumb)
I have nothing to fear from a pack of cards. Many years ago I called their bluff and asked them to pull the trigger on that rusty old gun they had held to my head for so many years. It just went puff - puff and I'm still here. Thanks for the help though, there are many others who need to be encouraged to win their freedom from the tower.
i think it would be interesting to know whether or not you believe that the jews recovery of their homeland (israel) in the 20th century had anything to do with god?
qualify your answer if you care to.. zechariah
I agree with Simon,
The little piece of Israel that is now occupeid is a political manoeuvre. The Jews have massive international clout and need to be appeasedfor commercial and political reasons. Just make an unfavourable comment about the jewish/Israelite nation a wait for the backlash. No who wishes to remain in politics dares to.
Why is every action carried out by man, credited to God?
please listen.
im not the first to go through this, i wont be the last.. i was raised in the truth as a result of my mum starting a study when i was 4 years old.
that was in 1968. the hysteria of a 1975/armageddon was just beginning to take root and the sister who studied with my mum was 100% sure of it.
Nicolaou,
I have a lot of sympathy with your situation.
All the above comments are very good and written by people who have experienced the pain of leaving the WT. Leaving does leave a hole in your life. My advice is to not fight it, ignore or avoid it.
Stare into that hole with courage, peace and dignity. Work each day to put one more building block into place. Build a newer better life. There will be pain but don't dwell on it - all change causes some discomfort. In time you find that there is no room for the WT mindset in your life and you will then be truly free.
Then you will have grown and realized the true purpose of your brief time on earth and know that it couldn't have been any other way except the way you have chosen.
do you think the wts will ever reduce the number of meetings per week, maybe drop one night a week?
just curious!
it seems that everyone is so whipped from working all day, i really think that's why there is such a drop in meeting attendance.
Englishman,
You're already in paradise - what would you want with a new world? No videos, pubs, wine shops or internet.
freddie i asked you explain some of the cr#p you regurgitated earlier.. i'm still waiting for your answers.
aren't you able to defend your god the watchtower corporation against some simple questions?.
i'm sure if you went to the elders and told them some interested person you met on the internet wanted answers they would help you to make a good witness for the organisation.. why not ask them fred after all they are there to help you.
WOW - TR,
Is that really a picture of Fred? I'm more impressed than ever - that can't be easy to do!
well, which is it guys?.
are you filled with anger at the wbts or just sad that things aren't what you though they were?.
i'm very sad that my parents won't talk with my sister (da'd) or my brother (df'd) even though the society's own web-site says that such actions do not sever family ties.
LDH,
That's a good question. I think the anger comes first and lasts for many years, then it is replaced
by a sadness. I feel a sadness for the deluded lives my family live. They have been robbed of
their chance to grow in this lifetime. They shun me and this causes them pain and it is all such
a waste. I wish they could know what it is like to live in freedom and allow their minds to travel to
wherever life takes them - without the mind numbing restrictions that the Watchtower places on
them mentaly and emotionaly.
