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Breaking news: Update Darkspilver May 6th hearing

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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on may 6th, 2019 watch tower attorney paul polidoro faced off against anonymous reddit user darkspilver, represented by eff, the electronic frontier foundation.. link to youtube video with audio from may 6th hearing:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wzopjmzfco&feature=youtu.be.

polidoro, noted for his appearance in the supreme court case of watchtower versus stratton ohio, now represents watch tower of pennsylvania in their efforts to flush out the inside leak sources of documents, videos and images.. these documents and other sensitive information have been leaked to the public and reposted by dozens of individuals since 2017. watch tower is deeply concerned about the internal moles leaking this information, since much of it has been used by whistleblowers to reveal watch tower's private internal policies and procedures.. included in the leaks are publisher id and records management materials which reveal the extent of jehovah's witness data collection and management prodedures, including the destruction of documents.. jehovah's witnesses have come under intense scrutiny for their failure to report child abuse across the globe, not only in mandatory reporting states, but in every location where clergy members are not required to report.. the dangerous policies of the jehovah's witness organization have resulted in a significant movement among current and former members to expose the organization and force transparency.. current members with high-level access to watch tower documents have risked expulsion and legal recourse for their efforts.. the electronic frontier foundation's attorney alex moss represented the unidentified darkspilver redditor in defense of the motion to quash watch tower's subpoena to unmask his identity.. listen closely as both sides make their case, and the judge seeks to understand the issues involved.. freedom of speech versus alleged copyright infringement- you be the judge.

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Hi.

The Watchtower encourages JWs to share its publications online. Some JWs use its logo on their facebook pages, they have tie pins, brollies, tablet covers wit JW.ORG logo. Why the org does not chase them? They share or use quotes on other forums, pages etc. Why no court cases?

Outright lies - They have no power to excommunicate him/her from local church. They actually do. He/she will not loose friends or family. He/she wiil.

Thank you the Watchtower for showing your truth colours. You help me to decide if I should remain a witness or not. And frankly, if I want to be follower of Jesus, I will have to leave.

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The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

by smiddy3 in

i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

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Hi from baptized and active in JWdom lurker.

Playing with words and justifying involvement of the Org with UN in any form is a scandal.

I feel sorry for Saunter. He wants to explain things to himself. But I guess he knows that the truth is simple - any, I stress, any involvement in political organisation is a sin.

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Hoping I can stay

by allyson in

i started studying with witnesses about 21 months ago.

started going to meetings in march 2017, went to the memorial and attended my first convention.

i love it.

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Ally. I am far from telling you what you should do. I don't want to encourage or discourage you. Whatever the org is or whatever the people in it are, do what you want. You feel happy with them - good. You don't have to be baptised or a publisher to study, go to meetings or socialise. I know quite a few who come to meetings, mix with JWs but are Not formally members. Maybe it is an option for you. You have to decide though.

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Stagnation of JWs in Britain

by darkspilver in

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this is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.

steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.

darkspilver: .

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After brexit many Poles and JWs from EU will leave. They already are. And it will be one of factors that figures will drop , I suppose

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Stagnation of JWs in Britain

by darkspilver in

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this is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.

steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.

darkspilver: .

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There are many symptoms of decrease and I guess it is going to get even slower.

1. New ones are mainly foreign language speakers. At English conventions many foreigners get baptised. An influx of Polish JWs has brought not only new members but many active JWs came over. 10 years ago there was 0 Polish circuits, now 3 or 4.

2. Many English congs especially rural ones are getting old. I know at least 5 where average age is over 60 and they have 50% at their meetings for obvious reasons.

3. Preaching pattern is plain stupid. They go out in mornings for an hour or so knocking on empty places. Btw Mormons in my town do their job at night and they do catch people in. Even local Witnesses can see it.

4. 3 years ago at the elders school, a teacher from the branch did maths: 80% not at homes (to be positive, it can be around 90%), average 4 people per house but just 1, the same, in the morning (others at work or school). It makes - JW reach just 3-5% of population in.

I must say that foreign JW are much more zealous and friendly in general. Sorry if I upset anybody.

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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

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I think the org is doing just fine financially.

1. They have dropped much of production. They outsource a lot (DVDs etc).

2. They have donations coming in.

All in all: Even if donations are wors, the regular spendings are lower.

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help needed -pre 1970 literature source

by closed in

hi there.. can somebody, please, point me in right direction.. i am looking for literature from 60' 50' especially watchtower and awake.. any sources i could download them from?

preferably searchable formats?.

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Much obliged

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help needed -pre 1970 literature source

by closed in

hi there.. can somebody, please, point me in right direction.. i am looking for literature from 60' 50' especially watchtower and awake.. any sources i could download them from?

preferably searchable formats?.

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Hi there.

Can somebody, please, point me in right direction.

I am looking for literature from 60' 50' especially Watchtower and Awake.

Any sources I could download them from? Preferably searchable formats?

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Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep

by doubtfull1799 in

"what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?

" - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.

i am happy to be left alone.

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Hi. Ex elder here. I had been one for nearly 20 years, special pioneer for 5, I think.

I used to be a butthole sometimes, I have to admit. Never power hungry though.

I think what many of us suffer from, is dissonance between the org as it really is and as , we believe it should be. Of course, based on natural human feelings and the Bible we imagine it is love based and driven. Everybody in wants to do his or her best for God and fellow humans (actually I am sure there are many decent people in the org). It mirrors what we feel and are.

But in reality.. the more we are in the org, we know more and we see it is just our imagination. People are as everywhere power hungry, stupid, lazy, nasty. And at the same time many are lovely, helpful, genuine.

My conclusion for now is. In or out the Borg it is exactly the same poo pond. I spoke to ex Coe minister. He said that the church thought him that no one is interested in the truth. The bloke was bloody right.

As the book says: there is nothing better than to eat, to drink, and enjoy your wife;) Do not torment yourself. Enjoy what you have got.

All the best to you.

Still,

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I was manning a cart

by closed in

i was manning a cart not long ago.

o, aye:) .

a man, who i suspect is familiar with this site comes to me.

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Well. Not much to see about the generation. Theta are meny threads here. But I was reading Isa60:4. It says that generation after generation were in Babylonian exile. So. If 70 years(according to WT) is generation after, I stress, after generation, then one generation surely can't be more than 70 years. Besides, you don't have to be a scholar to see what generation is.