has anyone read the book crisis of conscience?i want to get it,but i would like to know if the information is helpful.. wow it's a wide open world,use your.
own thoughts.
Ray who? You mean the father of all ex-JW's? The guy the WT would like to see gone (permanently)? Yep.
Read it. Plus "In Search of Christian Freedom" by Raymond Franz.
Oh yes, it's helpful. So helpful the hair stands up on the necks of every Governing Body member every time a page is turned. Tee-hee.
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i know some of you are not going to appreciate this and it probably won't start a movement that will affect a change but it will make me feel better to rant.. i find it very distracting to have moving graphics in the field of text, where we are supposed to be reading.
perhaps many of you are used to listening to the radio while studying for a test, as i have often seen depicted on tv, presumably in humor.
it may be humorous but it is not conducive to actual retention and meaningful meditation.
Ooh-h-h-h-h. He's been wanting to come out and play!
Trot (((([:D}))))
amazing,.
i was just wondering how you were.
i have not seen any posts since part 2. i realize you have just undergone major surgery but the lack of a post made me worry.
Amazing:
(((((hugs))))
Welcome back.
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i can't find the words that would express how grateful i am for all the support, not only for all of you to back me on the dateline show but for my trial as well.
i don't think i would have had the courage to go through the trauma if it wasn't for all your prayers and encouragement.
dateline was a huge help for many and i know this because i have recieved quite a few calls, one from a current jdub who wants out for the safety of his 16 month old baby, i was so excited that he lifted the veil and saw it for the pure truth that it was.
Erica:
We're SO-O-O-O-O glad to hear from you. You were wonderful. We are truly sorry for all you have been through. Thank you for fighting. May God Bless you and your family and let the healing begin.
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would someone please provide the wts book and page # which has a picture that includes a small plaque on a table which has an engraved "ram's head".
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edited to reflect corrections.
Ah...Englishman:
That's pretty subliminal. There's nothing there.
Am I doing something wrong.
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the following is a post dealing with dateline and pedophilia in the borg.
i predict that the guy who wrote this post may show up here one day before too long.
get a load of this:.
Athanasius:
It is now 6 p.m. in California, has there been any more JW posts since the last time you checked?NOPE....I just checked. Not a one. And it's 11:30 pm EST. That's 12 hours if the poster is in EST.
Tee-Hee.
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well ok, "shunned" is really sister number 2, but peachypoof is sister number one, and the second of my sister to join the board.. she is about 18 months younger than me, and today joined us on the board.. i know when i was talking to her online, i was kinda choked up, that she was signing up with us here.
these are moments that this brother, the real brother of these two sisters of mine will never forget!.
welcome peachypoof, and may your stay here be as long as mine.
Welcome, Peachpoof...So glad to see you. READ IS RIGHT!
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the following is a post dealing with dateline and pedophilia in the borg.
i predict that the guy who wrote this post may show up here one day before too long.
get a load of this:.
FRANCOIS:
You beat me to it. I saw the post and was going to post it here. I sat reading all the disgusting "Woe is us", "blame it on the apostates", "Jehovah's cleansing the congregation", "keep the faith", "were just human" (19 friggin' posts of that crap") and then this guy posted. I said PRAISE THE LORD...A THINKING J.W. Get this. Only two more posts were made after this and guess what? All the crying JW's disappeared! There hasn't been a single post since 11:15 this morning. Guess he let the wind out of their sails. There was a "shocked" Newbie post after his and then the post below which was also a slap to the JW's. Shut them up REAL fast. Anyway here is the last of their posts:
You make a very good point:
"I would not want to be in that congregation that all took sides with the person who molested that young sister only to find out that the man was guilty as sin."
I think the Dateline show Erica being all a lone durring the first trial and many Witnesses sitting on the side of the accused ex-elder totally sickening. This pedophile really has the wool pulled over the eyes of the congregation. And the PO of his congregation speaking in his behalf made me sick.
Also you make a good point:[i]What does that make those that abandoned their sister to side with the sinner? How do we suppose Jehovah views those that abandon his own for the sinner? On which side of that courtroom do you suppose Jesus would have sat? Which side would YOU have sat? It’s a sobering thought, is it not?[/]
I would have sat on Erica's side!!!!
That poor girl was being abused since she was 4 years old. I can't even begin to imagine how that must have damaged her self worth.
This guy was a family friend and an elder in their congregation at the time the years of abused were happening to this poor little girl..
He threatened her with Congregation action if she told anyone.
Which makes it hard to see why on earth any in the congregation would side with him and not support Erica Rodriquez.
Where are our priorities brothers and sister?
Are we so worried about the reputation of the Organization that we can't see how bad this thing is?
I say it is good these things come to the light.
Jehovah is Impartial and will not hold back his judgement just because it will hurt the reputation of those that claim to represent him.
I think we should reavaluate our priorities and start thinking like mature CHRISTIANS.
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ok so its not a joke, but i thought this site needed a bit of lightheartedness.
every thread is about abuse at the moment .
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Oh, I miss my Bingo.....1985 - 2001
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please post what the jdubs think of the dateline show.. www.purelanguage.net
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